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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of logarithmic expressions, specifically the natural logarithm denoted as loge or ln(x), in the context of integration. Participants express confusion regarding the notation and its implications in mathematical operations.

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  • Participants seek clarification on the equivalence of loge and ln(x), and whether e^x relates to these logarithmic expressions. There is an exploration of the notation used in different contexts and its potential for confusion.

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Some participants confirm the equivalence of loge and ln(x), while others express uncertainty about the relationship between e^x and logarithmic functions. Clarifications have been offered, but there remains some ambiguity regarding the notation and its implications in integration.

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There is mention of a table of integrals that includes e^x, which raises questions about its relationship to logarithmic functions. Participants are navigating different conventions in logarithmic notation, which may affect their understanding of the problem.

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Not so much a question query here but a query about how my question is written.

Im having to do some integration and my question has one part loge (log sub e). I think that this is just natural log which i usually see written as ln(x). Is this correct? However my table of integrals has e^x. Is this the same too? I seem to be getting confused by all the different ways of writting these logrithms. Can someone clarify please as to what each of these terms really means?

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grscott_2000 said:
Im having to do some integration and my question has one part loge (log sub e). I think that this is just natural log which i usually see written as ln(x). Is this correct?
Correct, loge(x) is identical to ln(x) and is given the name "natural logarithm".
grscott_2000 said:
However my table of integrals has e^x. Is this the same too?
However, ex is not the same as the natural logarithm, it is in fact it's inverse. Explicitly,

[tex]\log_e\left(e^x\right) = \ln\left(e^x\right) = x[/tex]

And,

[tex]e^{\ln(x)} = x[/tex]

Similarly,

[tex]\log_a\left(a^x\right) = x[/tex]

And,

[tex]a^{\log_a(x)} = x[/tex]

I hope this helps clear things up for you.
 
grscott_2000 said:
Not so much a question query here but a query about how my question is written.

Im having to do some integration and my question has one part loge (log sub e). I think that this is just natural log which i usually see written as ln(x). Is this correct?

Hi!

[tex]log_e(x)[/tex] means the same as ln(x).

You would pronounce it "logarithm, base e".

I suspect that the examiner is worried that some people use "log" for natural logs (I prefer that), and some for log-base-10, so he's written "[tex]log_e(x)[/tex]" to remove any doubt. :smile:
However my table of integrals has e^x. Is this the same too?

Sorry, I don't follow this part of your query. :confused:
 
Many thanx... Thats just what I was looking for. Things should be straightforward now, well as straightforward as integration can be i suppose!

Again many thanks for the help
 

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