Rearrange Logs: Get Guidance to Find F1 Value

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The discussion revolves around rearranging an equation involving logarithms to isolate the variable F1. The equation in question is m1 - m2 = -2.5 log10(F1/F2), which requires manipulation to express F1 in terms of other variables.

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  • Participants explore various methods for rearranging the logarithmic equation, with some expressing uncertainty about their steps. There are attempts to clarify the process of eliminating the logarithm and isolating F1, with suggestions to raise both sides to the power of 10.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their thought processes and checking each other's work. Some have provided guidance on how to approach the rearrangement, while others are verifying their understanding of the steps involved.

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Participants express confusion about the rearrangement process and seek confirmation of their reasoning without being provided direct solutions. There is an emphasis on showing each step for clarity.

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Please excuse my ignorance for posting this question, but I am confusing myself here. All I want to know is if I am rearranging this equation properly to find the value required...

Question

I want to rearrange the following equation to make F1 the subject.

Equations
m1-m2=-2.5log10(F1/F2)

My Thinking

So rearranging the above formula for F1 it becomes:

F1=10-(m1-m2)/2.5 x F2

When it comes to rearranging logs (one of the most straight forward and simple things, I know) I find myself easily confused.

Please don't tell me the correct arrangement if I am wrong, just a little guidance please.

Thank you in advance!
 
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Physics Dad said:
Equations
m1-m2=-2.5log10(F1/F2)

My Thinking

So rearranging the above formula for F1 it becomes:

F1=10-m2/2.5 x F2
That doesn't look right to me.

Start by moving the -2.5 to the LHS. Then you have log_10() on the RHS, so raise both sides to 10^() to get rid of the log term...
 
Thanks,

So basically raise everything to 10, get rid of the logs, rearrange, take everything to the 10√ ?

F1=-F2(m1-m2/2.5)

Or is that silly?
 
Physics Dad said:
Thanks,

So basically raise everything to 10, get rid of the logs, rearrange, take everything to the 10√ ?

F1=-F2(m1-m2/2.5)

Or is that silly?
No, not close. Try showing each step that I mention in my first reply, and then continue with the algebra after that. Please show each step separately so we can check it.
 
OK, thanks...

So here goes:

m1-m2=-2.5log10(F1/F2)

-(m1-m2)/2.5=log10(F1/F2)

F1/F2=10-(m1-m2)/2.5

Is this right so far?
 
Physics Dad said:
OK, thanks...

So here goes:

m1-m2=-2.5log10(F1/F2)

-(m1-m2)/2.5=log10(F1/F2)

F1/F2=10-(m1-m2)/2.5

Is this right so far?
Yes!
 
so to finish it off it would be:

F1=(F2)(10-(m1-m2)/2.5)

?
 
Physics Dad said:
so to finish it off it would be:

F1=(F2)(10-(m1-m2)/2.5)

?
Yes.
 
That's great, thank you so much for your help here.

I am sure it was frustrating for you, but it really helped me!
 
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