Differential equation after using Euler-Lagrange equations

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the motion of a particle moving along a parametrized curve in a uniform gravitational field using Euler-Lagrange equations. The Lagrangean is derived and the resulting differential equation is discussed. It is determined that the particle is moving along a helix with a constant angular velocity, and double integration is needed to solve the equation.
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Zaknife
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Homework Statement


Particle is moving along the curve parametrized as below (x,y,z) in uniform gravitational field. Using Euler- Lagrange equations find the motion of the particle.

The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\begin{array}{ll} x=a \cos \phi & \dot{x}= -\dot{\phi} a \sin \phi \\
y=a \sin \phi & \dot{y}=\dot{\phi} a \cos \phi \\
z=b \phi & \dot{z}= b \dot{\phi} \\
\end{array}
[/tex]
Lagrangean will be :
[tex] L=T-V=\frac{m}{2}\dot{\phi}^{2}(a^{2}+b^{2})-mgb\phi[/tex]
Using Euler-Lagrange equations we obtain:
[tex]\frac{d}{dt}\left(\frac{\partial \mathcal{L}}{\partial \dot{q_{l}}}\right)-\frac{\partial \mathcal{L}}{\partial q_{l}}=0[/tex]
[tex]m\ddot{\phi}(a^{2}+b^{2})+mgb=0[/tex]

How to deal with such differential equation ?
 
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So [itex]\phi[/itex] is the only generalised co-ordinate, and all the other letters are constants, right?

In that case, this is a differential equation of the form [tex]\ddot\phi = c[/tex] which gives a simple linear solution (which makes sense, because the only freedom you have is how fast you move along the curve).
 
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So all i need to do is double integration ?
 
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Zaknife said:
So all i need to do is double integration ?

That's correct. Write the equation in the form suggested by CompuChip and then integrate twice with respect to time. Since the right side is a constant is pretty simple to do.
 
  • #5
The particle is moving along a helix (on a circular cylinder) with constant angular velocity. Therefore the angle in the plane xOy depends quadratically on time.
 

1. What are the Euler-Lagrange equations used for?

The Euler-Lagrange equations are used to find the solutions to differential equations that involve one or more independent variables and one or more dependent variables.

2. How do Euler-Lagrange equations differ from other methods of solving differential equations?

The Euler-Lagrange equations are unique in that they approach solving differential equations from a variational standpoint, rather than an algebraic or numerical approach.

3. How are Euler-Lagrange equations derived?

The Euler-Lagrange equations are derived by applying the principle of stationary action to a functional, which is a mathematical expression that maps a set of functions to a real number.

4. Can Euler-Lagrange equations be used for all types of differential equations?

No, the Euler-Lagrange equations are specifically designed for solving variational problems, which involve finding the path or function that minimizes or maximizes a certain quantity.

5. What is the significance of using Euler-Lagrange equations in science and engineering?

The Euler-Lagrange equations have a wide range of applications in various fields of science and engineering, including mechanics, optics, and quantum mechanics. They provide a powerful tool for solving differential equations and can also help in understanding the underlying principles and physical laws of a system.

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