Differential equation for air resistance

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The discussion centers on solving the nonlinear differential equation ##\displaystyle Cv^2 - mg = m\frac{d^2 y}{dt^2}##, where C represents the drag coefficient, m is mass, and g is the acceleration due to gravity. The solution derived is ##\displaystyle y = \frac{m}{2c} \ln{|1 - \frac{Cv^2}{mg}|}##, which satisfies the original equation upon verification. Participants emphasize the importance of checking solutions by taking derivatives to confirm compliance with the differential equation.

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Homework Statement


Solve the differential equation ##\displaystyle Cv^2 - mg = m\frac{d^2 y}{dt^2}##

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The Attempt at a Solution


The problem is nonlinear, so we need to use unconventional methods. Specifically, if we can express the derivative of y with respect to v, then we might be able to integrate in order to find y.

So ##\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dv} = \frac{dy}{dt}\frac{dt}{dv} = v \frac{dt}{dv} = \frac{v}{\frac{dv}{dt}}##

But ##\displaystyle \frac{dv}{dt}## is given by ##\displaystyle \frac{C}{m}v^2 - g##, so
##\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dv} = \frac{mv}{Cv^2 - mg}##

If we solve this, we get ##\displaystyle y = \frac{m}{2c} \ln{|1 - \frac{Cv^2}{mg}|}## where ##V_0 = 0##.

Is this the correct solution?
 
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Mr Davis 97 said:

Homework Statement


Solve the differential equation ##\displaystyle Cv^2 - mg = m\frac{d^2 y}{dt^2}##

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


The problem is nonlinear, so we need to use unconventional methods. Specifically, if we can express the derivative of y with respect to v, then we might be able to integrate in order to find y.

So ##\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dv} = \frac{dy}{dt}\frac{dt}{dv} = v \frac{dt}{dv} = \frac{v}{\frac{dv}{dt}}##

But ##\displaystyle \frac{dv}{dt}## is given by ##\displaystyle \frac{C}{m}v^2 - g##, so
##\displaystyle \frac{dy}{dv} = \frac{mv}{Cv^2 - mg}##

If we solve this, we get ##\displaystyle y = \frac{m}{2c} \ln{|1 - \frac{Cv^2}{mg}|}## where ##V_0 = 0##.

Is this the correct solution?

Check this solution by taking the derivative and seeing if the differential equation is satisfied. That is something you should always do, whenever it is possible.
 
Ray Vickson said:
Check this solution by taking the derivative and seeing if the differential equation is satisfied. That is something you should always do, whenever it is possible.
Actually, it does satisfy the original equation! So is my solution the correct one?
 
bump. I need a definitive answer
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
bump. I need a definitive answer

If it satisfies the equation, of course it is.
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
bump. I need a definitive answer

Cannot give you one until you say what YOU regard as a solution. I would personally regard a formula such as ##v = f(t)## or ##t =h(v)## or ##y = F(t)## or ##t = H(y)## as a solution, so that if I were given ##t## I could compute ##v## and/or ##y##. So I myself would not say you were finished, but maybe your instructor has a different opinion.

However, your relationship between ##y## and ##v## MUST BE correct if it satisfies the DE.
 

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