Differential Equation general solution

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The discussion revolves around finding the general solution to a differential equation using the method of separating variables. The equation in question is dy/dx = (2xcos x)/y, with the condition that y > 0. Participants are also exploring implications of the solution at specific points, particularly at x = pi.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the need for a constant of integration in the solution and question the correctness of the proposed answer. There are inquiries about the method of substitution for determining the particular solution and the implications of using the general solution versus the particular solution.

Discussion Status

Some participants are providing guidance on the necessity of including the constant of integration and the steps to evaluate it. There is an ongoing exploration of the conditions under which the solution may not be valid, particularly at specific values of x.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the solution at x = pi and the relationship of the solution curve to the initial condition y = 2 when x = 0. There is a focus on ensuring clarity regarding the distinction between general and particular solutions.

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1) I need to find the general solution, using the method of seperating the variables of the following diff Equ:

dy/dx = (2xcos x)/y where y>0

Is the answer = 2(cos x + xsinx)

2) If y = 2 when x = 0, find y in terms of x

Could someone help me on this one

3) Explain why your answer may not be used for x=pi. Comment in relation to the solution curve through (0,2).

Could someone help me on this one please
 
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For part (1), you are on your way to getting the solution, but that is not the final answer. For one, where is your constant of integration? What expression is on the left hand side of your answer?

Part (2) just involves some substitution to enable you to evaluate the constant of integration for a particular solution.

For part (3), may I know whether we are supposed to use the expression for the general solution (part 1's answer) or that of the particular solution (part 2's answer)?
 
pizzasky said:
For part (1), you are on your way to getting the solution, but that is not the final answer. For one, where is your constant of integration? What expression is on the left hand side of your answer?

Part (2) just involves some substitution to enable you to evaluate the constant of integration for a particular solution.

For part (3), may I know whether we are supposed to use the expression for the general solution (part 1's answer) or that of the particular solution (part 2's answer)?

For part 3) I suppose any of the two
 
Natasha1 said:
1) I need to find the general solution, using the method of seperating the variables of the following diff Equ:

dy/dx = (2xcos x)/y where y>0

Is the answer = 2(cos x + xsinx)
Is what = 2(cos x+ x sin x)? Using integration by parts, the integral of 2xcos x dx is 2(cos x+ x sin x) but what happened to ydy?
And, as pizzasky said, you forgot the constant of integration.

2) If y = 2 when x = 0, find y in terms of x

Could someone help me on this one
Just do it! Replace y with 2 and x with 0 in your formula to determine what the constant of integration must be. Then solve for y.

3) Explain why your answer may not be used for x=pi. Comment in relation to the solution curve through (0,2).
Well, what happens if you set x= pi?

Could someone help me on this one please
 

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