Differential Equation- Height of water in tank

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The problem involves modeling the height of water in a tank using a differential equation. The tank is filled by an inflow and emptied by an outflow, with the outflow controlled by a resistance. The relationship between the water depth, tank dimensions, and valve resistance is central to the discussion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the formulation of a differential equation relating the height of water to inflow and outflow, questioning how to express the outflow without directly using its terms. There is an exploration of the relationship between the outflow, valve resistance, and tank dimensions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have made algebraic manipulations to express the height of water in terms of inflow and tank area, while others express concern about the inclusion of outflow parameters in the equation. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts to clarify the problem and explore different interpretations of the requirements.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of specific tank dimensions and valve resistance, which may influence the formulation of the differential equation. Participants also note the challenge of working with the given parameters without directly referencing the outflow.

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Homework Statement


A water tank is filled by an inflow x(t), the tank is emptied by the outflow y(t)

The outflow if controlled by a resistance R

The water depth in the tank is represented by d(t)

The surface area of the water is A, independent of depth

The tank is 1.5m high with a 1m diameter and a valve resistance of 10s/m^2

We are being asked to write a differential equation in terms of tank dimensions and valve resistance


Homework Equations



The outflow is related by y(t) = d(t)/R

d/dt(Volume of tank) = x(t)-y(t)

dh/dt = -a*e^(10t) --> I pulled this from another example online

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't understand how to express this without using the terms in regards to outflow and inflow. From the given equation we can calculate...
d(t) = y(t)R --> From here I assume the following
d(t ) = x(t) - y(t)R , can we assume that x(t) is the initial volume of the tank?
I honestly don't know where to go from here, the only times I have seen a problem like this has been in regards to inflow and outflow, not tank dimensions and valve resistance.

d(t) = pi(.5^2)(1.5) - y(t)*10

I feel like I am overlooking something very simple here, I haven't slept in about a day and a half so that might be it :p
 
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The net volumetric flow (m^3/sec) which is expressed as

dv/dt = x(t) - y(t) = x(t) - h/R where h is the height of water in the tank

But dv/dt = A * dh/dt where A is cross sectional area.

So write your ODE. The independent variable is time, and the dependent variable is h.
 
So then after some algebraic manipulation I have

dh/dt= x(t)/A - h/RA

This still uses output flow as a parameter, which isn't what the question wants. I'm sorry that I'm so hung up on this problem
 
Abide said:
So then after some algebraic manipulation I have

dh/dt= x(t)/A - h/RA

This still uses output flow as a parameter, which isn't what the question wants. I'm sorry that I'm so hung up on this problem

The output flow is y(t). It's not in the ODE. The input flow is present.
 
Right but that isn't in the terms requested right? We can't have it in terms of output flow..or does y(t) somehow relate to valve resistance?
 
dh/dt= x(t)/A - h/RA

A is the area and it is based on the tank dimension diameter. R is the resistance. The overall height of the tank is 1.5 m but that is extraneous information. You could change the A to pi*D^2/4.
 

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