Differential equation on relativistic momentum (ML Boas)

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The discussion revolves around a differential equation related to relativistic momentum, specifically focusing on the relationship between force, momentum, and velocity in a relativistic context. Participants are exploring how to express velocity as a function of time and the implications of integrating the resulting equations.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to manipulate equations involving relativistic momentum and force, questioning how to isolate velocity as a function of time. There are discussions about squaring terms and integrating to find distance, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their approaches.

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There is ongoing exploration of different mathematical approaches, including integration and manipulation of equations. Some participants have provided updates on their progress, while others are seeking further suggestions on how to proceed with the integration and the correct expressions for velocity.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is also a mention of starting conditions, such as an electron beginning from rest, which influences the discussion.

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Homework Statement
The momentum ##p## of an electron at speed ##v## near the speed ##c## of light increase s according to the formula ##p=\gamma mv##, where ##\gamma = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}}##; m is a constant (mass of an electron). If an electron is subject to a constant force F, Newton's second law describing its motion is: $$\frac{dp}{dt}=\frac{d}{dt} \gamma mv=F$$. Find (a) v(t) and show that v approaches c as t approaches infinite. (b) Find the distance traveled by the electron in time t if it starts from rest.
Relevant Equations
For ##dy/dx = c##, the solution is $$y=\int {c dx}$$
$$p=\gamma m v$$
$$F = \frac {md (\gamma v}{dt}$$
$$\int{F dt} = \int{md (\gamma v}$$
$$F t= \gamma mv$$

At this step, I don't know how to make v as explicit function of t, since gamma is a function of v too. Thankss
 
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Gee, I think I just have to take quadrat on both sides. Pfft..
 
Now, I will update what I get and still can't get the distance function.
I get:
$$v^2=\frac{Ft}{m^2+\frac{Ft}{c^2}}$$, then
$$v=\sqrt{\frac{Ft}{m^2+\frac{Ft}{c^2}}}$$
 
Writing ##v=\frac{dx}{dt}## gives:
$$\frac{dx}{dt}=\sqrt{\frac{Ft}{m^2+\frac{Ft}{c^2}}}$$
 
Any suggestion how to determine this integral?
 
agnimusayoti said:
Any suggestion how to determine this integral?

It's easier if you start with the correct expression for v.

agnimusayoti said:
Now, I will update what I get and still can't get the distance function.
I get:
$$v^2=\frac{Ft}{m^2+\frac{Ft}{c^2}}$$, then
$$v=\sqrt{\frac{Ft}{m^2+\frac{Ft}{c^2}}}$$

Try again. What does squaring both sides of mv = Ft/\gamma(v) give you?
 
Shoot. I forget to square Ft. Sorry,
 
Youre right.
I get this:
$$dx=\frac{cF t}{\sqrt{m^2 c^2 + F^2 t^2}} dt$$
Then, integrating this equation, I get:
$$x=\frac{c}{F}\sqrt{m^2c^2 + F^2t^2} + C_1$$
Because electron starts from rest, therefore at t=0 x = 0. So, I get ##C_1=-\frac{mc^2}{F}##.
Using this constant, I get the same answer with the solution.
Thanks. Sorry for not being meticulous.
 

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