Differential equation (product/quotient)

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The discussion focuses on the application of the quotient rule and product rule in calculus, specifically in differentiating functions involving products and quotients. The user presents an equation, y = (5x+2)²/((x+5)³)², and seeks clarification on the correct differentiation process. Key points include the correct application of the quotient rule, which is defined as (u'(x)v(x) - u(x)v'(x)) / v(x)², and the importance of maintaining the correct order of differentiation to avoid sign errors. The conversation also touches on whether the problem qualifies as a differential equation.

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I have several questions, so i'll post these as i go.

1.

y = (5x+2)2/((x+5)3)2

u = (5x+2)2
u' = 7(5x+3)6 . (5)
v = (x+5)3
v' = (3(x+5)2).(1)

Quotient = (u(x)*v'(x) - v(x)* u'(x) / v(x)2)

(5x+2)7 . 3(x+5)2 - (x+5)3 . 7(5x+5)6 .(5) / ((x+5)3)2

[ If i knew how to put this under i would ]

What have i done wrong here? not exactly sure ;s

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2.

If i have an equation with 2 brackets on the numerator, and only 1 on the denominator will i use the product rule for the numerator then the quotient? Or, will i expand the brackets then use the quotient rule?

Example:

(4x+9)(6x+1) / (8x+3)

u = (4x+9)(6x+1)
u' = (4x+9)(6) + (6x+1)(4)
v = (8x+3)
v' = (8)

Am i doing the right thing here? Any advice will help thank you.
[If my question is not clear please tell me]

Thanks in advance, recoil33
 
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recoil33 said:
u = (5x+2)2
u' = 7(5x+3)6 . (5)


I'm assuming there's a typo-- u=(5x+2)^{7}, right?

recoil33 said:
Quotient = (u(x)*v'(x) - v(x)* u'(x) / v(x)2)



The quotient rule is (u'(x)*v(x)-u(x)*v'(x))\over (v(x))^{2}; you reversed the order of differentiation. You take the derivative of the function in the numerator first.

recoil33 said:
If i have an equation with 2 brackets on the numerator, and only 1 on the denominator will i use the product rule for the numerator then the quotient? Or, will i expand the brackets then use the quotient rule?


You can do it either way. The work you posted is correct.
 
But what do they have to do with differential equations?
 
@ JThompson

Yes, the equation was sapose to be

u = (5x +2)7
u' = 7(5x+2)6

The equation will be incorrect if i accidently put u'(x)*v(x) and v'(x)*u(x) in the wrong order?

@Hallsofivy

Sorry, bit new to the terminology of the mathematics.

I guess it's not a differential equation?, although was it in the right section? (calc and beyond)


Thanks JThomas for your help and thanks for your input ivy ;)
 
recoil33 said:
The equation will be incorrect if i accidently put u'(x)*v(x) and v'(x)*u(x) in the wrong order?

Yes. The derivative will be of the opposite sign.
v'(x)*u(x)-u'(x)*v(x)= -(u'(x)*v(x)-v'(x)u(x))

Good luck.
 

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