Differential equations - linear dependency

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The discussion revolves around the linear dependency and independence of two functions, y1(t) = t^2 and y2(t) = t|t|, within specified intervals. The original poster presents a series of tasks related to the Wronskian and the definitions of linear dependence and independence.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to compute the Wronskian to determine linear dependency and independence, expressing uncertainty about how to demonstrate these properties over the given intervals. They also seek clarification on the meaning of "identically zero."
  • Some participants question whether additional information is needed, such as a differential equation, and discuss the implications of the functions being the same on the interval [0, 1].
  • Others suggest that demonstrating the existence of a constant k for dependence and its absence for independence may be a sufficient approach.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of linear dependency and independence. Some guidance has been offered regarding the definitions and implications of the Wronskian, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to take for the tasks presented.

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There is a noted ambiguity in the original poster's understanding of the terms and the implications of the functions being equal in certain intervals. The discussion also highlights the need for clarity on the definitions of linear dependence and independence in the context of multiple functions.

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Let y1(t) = t^2 and y2(t) = t|t|
(a) Show that y1 and y2 are linearly dependent on the interval 0<=t<=1.
(b) Show that y1 and y2 are linearly independent on the interval -1<=t<=1.
(c) Show that the Wronskian W[y1,y2] is identically zero.



My attempt:
(a) So I know that if the Wronskian is zero, then y1 and y2 are linearly dependent. So i worked out the wronskian and i got
w[y1,y2](t) = t^3 - t^2|t|
I'm not sure how to show that it is linearly dependent on the interval. should i substitute in the intervals 0 and 1 and find that they are equal to zero? what about everything inbetween 0 and 1?

(b) So for linearly independence, wronskian doesn't equal zero, again i have the same question of whether i substitute in the interval, and what do i do with the numbers inbetween, i am unsure how to prove this.

(c) i have no idea what identically zero means, can someone explain this?
 
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Is that all the information they gave you? Did they give you a differential equation for the solutions?
 
yes, this is all. and i think i have solved (c). i did the wronskian wrong in (a), when i did it again , i got exactly 0, and i guess this is what (c) is asking.

but for (a) and (b), can i just show that for dependence, y1 = k y2, k should exist, and for independence, k should not exist? is that sufficient.
 
If t is non-negative, as it is on [0, 1], then t|t|= t2. The two functions you give are not "independent", they are exactly the same!

"Identically zero" means equal to 0 for all values of t.

but for (a) and (b), can i just show that for dependence, y1 = k y2, k should exist, and for independence, k should not exist? is that sufficient.
For two functions, yes, but for more than two you will need to use the general definition of independence: If
[tex]k_1 f_1(x)+ k_2 f_2(x)+ \cdot\cdot\cdot + k_n f_n(x)= 0[/tex]
for all x with an least one ki not equal to 0, then the functions are dependent.
 

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