Differential Equations: linearity principle

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The discussion focuses on solving a linear system of differential equations defined by dx/dt = x - y and dy/dt = x + 3y. Participants seek assistance with the initial value problem where y(0) = (0, 2) and express confusion regarding the application of the linearity principle with only one known solution. Key insights include the need to clarify initial conditions and explore alternative methods such as matrix representation and diagonalization to solve the system effectively.

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Homework Statement


Consider the linear system:
dx/dt=x-y
dy/dt=x+3y

a. show that the function (x(t), y(t))=(te2t, -(t+1)e2t) is a solution to the differential equation (easy)
b. Solve the initial value problem
dx/dt=x-y
dy/dt=x+3y

y(0)=(0,2)

need help with part b not a

Homework Equations


linarity principle
y(t)=k1y1(t) +k2y2(t)

The Attempt at a Solution


Really don't even know where to start. I understand how to use the linearity principle with two given solutions but not one. I feel like I am missing a very fundamental idea about initial value problems. So any idea on where I should begin with just one given solution?[/B]
 
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Dusty912 said:

Homework Statement


Consider the linear system:
dx/dt=x-y
dy/dt=x+3y

a. show that the function (x(t), y(t))=(te2t, -(t+1)e2t) is a solution to the differential equation (easy)
b. Solve the initial value problem
dx/dt=x-y
dy/dt=x+3y

y(0)=(0,2)
This is confusing. y(0) is a single number. Did you write 0,2 to mean the same thing as 0.2? If not, what's the initial condition for x(0)?
Dusty912 said:
need help with part b not a

Homework Equations


linarity principle
Which is what?
Dusty912 said:
y(t)=k1y1(t) +k2y2(t)

The Attempt at a Solution


Really don't even know where to start. I understand how to use the linearity principle with two given solutions but not one. I feel like I am missing a very fundamental idea about initial value problems. So any idea on where I should begin with just one given solution?[/B]
 
Rayonna said:

Homework Equations


p= Ɣmu
p= mv/ sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)

The Attempt at a Solution


a.
p= 1/ sqrt(1-.422c/c^2) *(.422c)(0)
= 5.51e-01

Dusty912 said:
Really don't even know where to start. I understand how to use the linearity principle with two given solutions but not one. I feel like I am missing a very fundamental idea about initial value problems. So any idea on where I should begin with just one given solution?

please see the following to get an idea of the question-
http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/Linear.aspx
 
Dusty912 said:

Homework Statement


Consider the linear system:
dx/dt=x-y
dy/dt=x+3y

a. show that the function (x(t), y(t))=(te2t, -(t+1)e2t) is a solution to the differential equation (easy)
b. Solve the initial value problem
dx/dt=x-y
dy/dt=x+3y

y(0)=(0,2)
It looks like you are confusing two different notations. In your equations, dx/dt= x- y and dy/dt= x+ ,you have x and y as scalar functions but here you have y as a vector function with the previous x and y as components. In your original notation, you want x(0)= 0, y(0)= 2.
need help with part b not a

Homework Equations


linarity principle
y(t)=k1y1(t) +k2y2(t)

The Attempt at a Solution


Really don't even know where to start. I understand how to use the linearity principle with two given solutions but not one. I feel like I am missing a very fundamental idea about initial value problems. So any idea on where I should begin with just one given solution?[/B]
Are you required to use the given solution? There are several different ways of solving such a system of equations. For one, you could write it as a matrix equation:
\frac{d\begin{pmatrix}x \\ y \end{pmatrix}}{dx}= \begin{pmatrix}1 & -1 \\ 1 & 3 \end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix}x \\ y \end{pmatrix}
and it is easy to "diagonalize" that matrix.

Or, differentiating the first equation again, \frac{d^2x}{dt^2}= \frac{dx}{dt}- \frac{dy}{dt} and replace that \frac{dy}{dx} with the second equation- \frac{d^2x}{dt^2}= \frac{dx}{dt}- (x+ 3y) and replace that "y" with y= x- \frac{dx}{dt} from the first equation again.
\frac{d^2x}{dt^2}= \frac{dx}{dt}- x- 3(x- \frac{dx}{dt})= 4\frac{dx}{dt}- 4x. Can you solve \frac{d^2x}{dt^2}- 4\frac{dx}{dt}+ 4x= 0 with initial conditions x(0)= (0), x'(0)= x(0)- y(0)= 0- 2= -2?
 
HallsofIvy said:
It looks like you are confusing two different notations. In your equations, dx/dt= x- y and dy/dt= x+ ,you have x and y as scalar functions but here you have y as a vector function with the previous x and y as components. In your original notation, you want x(0)= 0, y(0)= 2.

Are you required to use the given solution? There are several different ways of solving such a system of equations. For one, you could write it as a matrix equation:
\frac{d\begin{pmatrix}x \\ y \end{pmatrix}}{dx}= \begin{pmatrix}1 & -1 \\ 1 & 3 \end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix}x \\ y \end{pmatrix}
and it is easy to "diagonalize" that matrix.
It's not so easy. There's a repeated eigenvalue with only one eigenvector.
HallsofIvy said:
Or, differentiating the first equation again, \frac{d^2x}{dt^2}= \frac{dx}{dt}- \frac{dy}{dt} and replace that \frac{dy}{dx} with the second equation- \frac{d^2x}{dt^2}= \frac{dx}{dt}- (x+ 3y) and replace that "y" with y= x- \frac{dx}{dt} from the first equation again.
\frac{d^2x}{dt^2}= \frac{dx}{dt}- x- 3(x- \frac{dx}{dt})= 4\frac{dx}{dt}- 4x. Can you solve \frac{d^2x}{dt^2}- 4\frac{dx}{dt}+ 4x= 0 with initial conditions x(0)= (0), x'(0)= x(0)- y(0)= 0- 2= -2?
 
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