Differential equations problem

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The discussion revolves around an initial value problem (IVP) involving a differential equation of the form xy' - y = 3xe^{2y/x}, with the condition y(1) = -1. Participants are exploring methods to simplify or solve the equation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the complexity of the equation and question the necessity of removing the exponential term. There are clarifications regarding the equation's format and suggestions for substitutions to simplify the problem.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning the initial setup. Some have suggested that a substitution might simplify the problem, while others express uncertainty about the existence of an exact solution.

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There is a mention of the equation's complexity and the potential need for further study, indicating that participants are grappling with the problem's intricacies. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of the equation's terms and the implications of those interpretations.

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solve the following ivp
xy' - y = 3xe^2y/x
y(1)=-1

how can i get rid of e ? does anybody help me ?
thanks in advance.
 
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I assume that e is just the Euler number 2.7...
Why would you want to get rid of it? And why then don't you ask: "how can I get rid of 3?"
 
It's hard to read what you wrote. Do you mean: [tex]xy' - y = \frac{3xe^2y}{x}[/tex]?
 
It should be xy' - y = 3xe[tex]^{2y/x}[/tex]
I guess i need to study more thanks for your help.
 
Ah, so the equation is
[tex] x y' - y = 3 x \exp\left[ \frac{2y}{x} \right]<br /> [tex] ... that makes the problem significantly more complex <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":smile:" title="Smile :smile:" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":smile:" /><br /> I'm not even sure there is an exact solution.[/tex][/tex]
 
For the IVP problem, you should find I(X)
you may get I(x)=e^x dx
then you multiply I(X) on both sides and you can solve the problem i guess
 
CompuChip said:
... that makes the problem significantly more complex :smile:.
On the contrary, it suggests an obvious thing to try. And due to good fortune*, it works.

Really, this is one of those problems that (at least for the beginner) should fall into the category of "this looks complicated -- there is only one thing I could possibly do, and I just have to hope it works".


*: Okay, fine, it's more likely that it was rigged to work. :wink:
 
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It takes a substitution to make things a lot easier as Hurkyl said.
 

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