Differential equations with eigenvalues.

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The discussion revolves around solving a system of differential equations characterized by a matrix, specifically focusing on finding eigenvalues and corresponding eigenvectors. The subject area is differential equations with an emphasis on linear algebra concepts such as eigenvalues and eigenvectors.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the process of finding eigenvalues by calculating the determinant of the matrix A - Iλ and setting it to zero. There is uncertainty about selecting eigenvectors and whether the chosen vectors are valid. Some participants express confusion about the method and seek confirmation on their reasoning.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided feedback on the approaches taken, with some affirming the correctness of the eigenvector selections. There is ongoing exploration of how to combine solutions and check their validity against the original differential equations. The conversation reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the method without reaching a definitive conclusion.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for an algebraic calculator to verify solutions, indicating a potential constraint in checking their work. There is also a focus on ensuring that the derived solutions satisfy the original differential equations, which is highlighted as an important step in the process.

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Homework Statement


Find all solutions of the given differential equations: ## \frac{dx}{dt} =
\begin{bmatrix}
6 & -3 \\
2 & 1
\end{bmatrix} x ##

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


So, we just take the determinate of A-I##\lambda## and set it equal to 0 to get the eigenvalues of 3, and 4. Then, we plug our eigenvalues one at a time into A-I##\lambda## and solve it to equal the 0 vector.

For 3, I get ##
\begin{bmatrix}
3 & -3 \\
2 & -2
\end{bmatrix} ## Which implies that ##x_1 = x_2## so I can just pick
##\begin{bmatrix}
1 \\
1
\end{bmatrix} ## to be my vector? This is the part I am confused about, I'm not sure that's what I actually do! Do I just say for ##\lambda## = 3, my solution is ## e^{3t} \begin{bmatrix}
1 \\
1
\end{bmatrix} ##

Similarly for ##\lambda = 4 ## i find my matrix to be
##
\begin{bmatrix}
2 & -3 \\
2 & -3
\end{bmatrix} ## which i see that ##2x_1=3x_2## this, i can just pick
##\begin{bmatrix}
2 \\
3
\end{bmatrix} ## Thus, my solution for ##\lambda = 4## is just ##e^{4t}
\begin{bmatrix}
2 \\
3
\end{bmatrix} ##

Thanks for all the help, I'm just unsure this is the method I should be going about to solve these types of problems! (Also, if anyone knows of an algebraic calculator in which I could check my solutions for these types of problems, I would also appreciate that)
 
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WendysRules said:

Homework Statement


Find all solutions of the given differential equations: ## \frac{dx}{dt} =
\begin{bmatrix}
6 & -3 \\
2 & 1
\end{bmatrix} x ##

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


So, we just take the determinate determinant of A-I##\lambda## and set it equal to 0 to get the eigenvalues of 3 and 4. Then, we plug our eigenvalues one at a time into A-I##\lambda## and solve it to equal the 0 vector.

For 3, I get ##
\begin{bmatrix}
3 & -3 \\
2 & -2
\end{bmatrix} ## Which implies that ##x_1 = x_2## so I can just pick
##\begin{bmatrix}
1 \\
1
\end{bmatrix} ## to be my vector? This is the part I'm confused about. I'm not sure that's what I actually do! Do I just say for ##\lambda## = 3, my solution is ## e^{3t} \begin{bmatrix}
1 \\
1
\end{bmatrix}##
Yup, that's right.

Similarly for ##\lambda = 4 ## i find my matrix to be
##
\begin{bmatrix}
2 & -3 \\
2 & -3
\end{bmatrix} ## which i see that ##2x_1=3x_2## this, i can just pick
##\begin{bmatrix}
2 \\
3
\end{bmatrix} ## Thus, my solution for ##\lambda = 4## is just ##e^{4t}
\begin{bmatrix}
2 \\
3
\end{bmatrix} ##
You got the 2 and 3 backwards.

Thanks for all the help, I'm just unsure this is the method I should be going about to solve these types of problems! (Also, if anyone knows of an algebraic calculator in which I could check my solutions for these types of problems, I would also appreciate that)
So now that you have to two solutions, what's the general solution?
 
WendysRules said:

Homework Statement


Find all solutions of the given differential equations: ## \frac{dx}{dt} =
\begin{bmatrix}
6 & -3 \\
2 & 1
\end{bmatrix} x ##

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


So, we just take the determinate of A-I##\lambda## and set it equal to 0 to get the eigenvalues of 3, and 4. Then, we plug our eigenvalues one at a time into A-I##\lambda## and solve it to equal the 0 vector.

For 3, I get ##
\begin{bmatrix}
3 & -3 \\
2 & -2
\end{bmatrix} ## Which implies that ##x_1 = x_2## so I can just pick
##\begin{bmatrix}
1 \\
1
\end{bmatrix} ## to be my vector? This is the part I am confused about, I'm not sure that's what I actually do! Do I just say for ##\lambda## = 3, my solution is ## e^{3t} \begin{bmatrix}
1 \\
1
\end{bmatrix} ##

Similarly for ##\lambda = 4 ## i find my matrix to be
##
\begin{bmatrix}
2 & -3 \\
2 & -3
\end{bmatrix} ## which i see that ##2x_1=3x_2## this, i can just pick
##\begin{bmatrix}
2 \\
3
\end{bmatrix} ## Thus, my solution for ##\lambda = 4## is just ##e^{4t}
\begin{bmatrix}
2 \\
3
\end{bmatrix} ##

Thanks for all the help, I'm just unsure this is the method I should be going about to solve these types of problems! (Also, if anyone knows of an algebraic calculator in which I could check my solutions for these types of problems, I would also appreciate that)

You are correct.

However, when in doubt, check to see if your alleged "solutions" actually satisfy the DE---a step you should always do, anyway, as part of good working practice.
 
What you want to do is merge those two eigenvectors into a matrix, and left-multiply it by the solution to the diagonal system of differential equations to get the general solution for your original matrix.
 
vela said:
So now that you have to two solutions, what's the general solution?

Should just be the two of the added together? So, ## x(t) = C_1 e^{3t} \begin{bmatrix}
1 \\
1
\end{bmatrix} + C_2 e^{4t}
\begin{bmatrix}
3 \\
2
\end{bmatrix} ## where C is a constant.

Ray Vickson said:
However, when in doubt, check to see if your alleged "solutions" actually satisfy the DE---a step you should always do, anyway, as part of good working practice.

Do I check them vs the original equations, or just the new "eigenedited" matrices? I.E for ## \lambda = 4## I'd use the matrix ##
\begin{bmatrix}
2 & -3 \\
2 & -3
\end{bmatrix} ## and multiple it by
##\begin{bmatrix}
3 \\
2
\end{bmatrix} ## to get
##\begin{bmatrix}
6+-6 \\
6+-6
\end{bmatrix} ## =
##\begin{bmatrix}
0 \\
0
\end{bmatrix} ## Thus it works.
 
WendysRules said:
Should just be the two of the added together? So, ## x(t) = C_1 e^{3t} \begin{bmatrix}
1 \\
1
\end{bmatrix} + C_2 e^{4t}
\begin{bmatrix}
3 \\
2
\end{bmatrix} ## where C is a constant.
Yes, that's correct.

Do I check them vs the original equations, or just the new "eigenedited" matrices?
You want to see if your solution ##x(t)## satisfies the differential equation, so plug it into the differential equation.
 

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