Undergrad Differential Geometry: Comparing Metric Tensors

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In differential geometry, it is possible to have two different metric tensors on the same manifold, allowing for the study of different geometries induced by these metrics. The concept of bimetric gravity in physics explores the implications of having two distinct metrics on a single spacetime manifold. While there are established methods for defining a metric on a product manifold from the metrics of its factors, projecting a metric back onto its individual factors is not straightforward. The curvature properties of product metrics can vary, and not all metrics on a Cartesian product are product metrics themselves. Understanding these relationships is crucial for advancing theories in both mathematics and physics.
  • #31
Infrared said:
The proof does not consider the degree of a map ##X\to X##, but of a map ##X^4\to X^4##. This makes sense because ##X^4\cong\mathbb{R}^6##. I think @WWGD had a typo of ##X^6## for ##\mathbb{R}^6## in his post.

Not really my point. The underlying intuition was that the iterated mapping ##h^2## on ##X^4## is orientation preserving. So how is ##X^4## orientable in the first place? What does that mean?E.g.if ##X## is a non-orientable manifold then ##X^4## is also non-orientable. For instance the four fold Cartesian product of the real projective plane with itself is not orientable. In fact is ##w_{i}## is the generator of its first ##Z_3## cohomology then the first Stiefel-Whitney class of the four fouldCartesian product is ##w_1+w_2+w_3+w_4##.

BTW: I am curious to see your Kunneth formula proof.
 
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Sorry I must be missing something. ##\mathbb{R}^6## is orientable, and ##X^4## is homeomorphic to ##\mathbb{R}^6##, so it is also orientable. If you're asking what definition of orientable works here, I think you can use the usual definition of being able to consistently choose generators for the local homology groups ##H_6(X^4,X^4-\text{point})##.
 
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  • #33
Infrared said:
Sorry I must be missing something. ##\mathbb{R}^6## is orientable, and ##X^4## is homeomorphic to ##\mathbb{R}^6##, so it is also orientable. If you're asking what definition of orientable works here, I think you can use the usual definition of being able to consistently choose generators for the local homology groups ##H_6(X^4,X^4-\text{point})##.

Right. Now I get it. Nice.

There is a theorem here that is implicitly assumed which is that the square of any homeomorphism of an orientable manifold is orientation preserving. This is clear for a compact manifold but for a non-compact manifold, how does one prove it?
 
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  • #36
Infrared said:
The proof does not consider the degree of a map ##X\to X##, but of a map ##X^4\to X^4##. This makes sense because ##X^4\cong\mathbb{R}^6##. I think @WWGD had a typo of ##X^6## for ##\mathbb{R}^6## in his post.
Myb bad, thanks for pointing it out , for links and followup. I am editing as we speak.
 
  • #37
lavinia said:
There is a theorem here that is implicitly assumed which is that the square of any homeomorphism of an orientable manifold is orientation preserving. This is clear for a compact manifold but for a non-compact manifold, how does one prove it?

I think the point is the same as in the closed case. If ##X## is orientable, then all of the local homology groups ##H_n(X,X-\text{point})## are naturally isomorphic (identify the preferred generators), so a homeomorphism ##f:X\to X## with ##f(x_1)=x_2## gives an isomorphism ##H_n(X,X-x_1)\to H_n(X,X-x_2)\cong H_n(X,X-x_1),## and then ##f\circ f## has to induce the identity, so ##f\circ f## preserves orientation.

The only difference from the closed case is that the generators are not induced by a homology class of ##X##.
 
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  • #38
Infrared said:
I think the point is the same as in the closed case. If ##X## is orientable, then all of the local homology groups ##H_n(X,X-\text{point})## are naturally isomorphic (identify the preferred generators), so a homeomorphism ##f:X\to X## with ##f(x_1)=x_2## gives an isomorphism ##H_n(X,X-x_1)\to H_n(X,X-x_2)\cong H_n(X,X-x_1),## and then ##f\circ f## has to induce the identity, so ##f\circ f## preserves orientation.

The only difference from the closed case is that the generators are not induced by a homology class of ##X##.
Right. Two oriented charts are connected by a path of overlapping oriented charts.
 

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