Differential Geometry Problems (2)

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The discussion revolves around solving differential geometry problems involving the Frenet formulas, curvature, and torsion. The user successfully derived equations for part A but is struggling with part B, seeking hints to prove a certain derivative equals zero using the Frenet formulas. For problem 2, the user is unsure how to apply the theorem regarding generalized helices and feels stuck. They express a desire for assistance and inquire about the forum's policy on bumping posts. Overall, the thread highlights challenges in applying theoretical concepts to specific problems in differential geometry.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations



Frenet Formulas, definitions of curvature, torsion and generalized helix

The Attempt at a Solution



for 1)
I think I got part A down - I had α = λT + µN + νT, took the derivatives and plugged in the Frenet formulas to get:
λ′ − µκ − 1 = 0,
µ′ + λκ + ντ = 0
ν ′ − µτ = 0.
and i solved for τ and κ.

However, I'm having trouble with part B. I assume for part B, I should take the derivative of α = λT + µN + νT again, and use Frenet formulas to prove that this is equal to zero, but the algebra is not working out for me. Could anyone give me some hints or tips?

for 2)
I really don't know how to go about solving this problem; i was thinking of using this theorem

" a constant speed space curve p (t) is a generalized helix if and only if in a suitable orthogonal coordinate system the following holds
p(t)=q(t)+ct e'_3,
where q(t) is a constant speed curve in the x'y'-plane with curvature being nonzero everywhere, and c is a constant. Here e'_3 denotes the unit vector in the z'-direction."

but it doesn't seem to be getting me anywhere.



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ANY help would be really appreciated, thank you!
 
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