Property of a generalised helix

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The discussion revolves around the properties of a generalized helix, specifically focusing on the relationship between the curvature and torsion of a space curve whose unit tangent maintains a constant angle with a fixed vector in Euclidean space. The original poster attempts to prove that if the torsion is non-zero everywhere, then the space curve is a generalized helix if and only if the ratio of curvature to torsion is constant.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the Frenet-Serret formulas and the conditions under which the normal vector's dot product with the fixed vector is zero. There are attempts to express the fixed vector in terms of the tangent and binormal vectors, leading to questions about the constancy of certain coefficients.

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The discussion includes various attempts to clarify the relationships between curvature, torsion, and the fixed vector. Some participants have provided hints and guidance on exploring the implications of the relationships derived from the Frenet-Serret formulas, while others are seeking further clarification on the reverse implication of the proof.

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Participants note the challenge of demonstrating that certain quantities remain constant, particularly in relation to the parameterization of the curve and the dependencies of coefficients on the curve's geometry.

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A generalized helix is a space curve whose unit tangent makes ##T## makes a constant angle ##\theta## with the a fixed unit vector ##A## in Euclidean space, I.e ##T \cdot A = \cos \theta = \text{const}##. Prove that if the torsion ##\tau \neq 0## everywhere then the space curve is a generalized helix iff ## \kappa/\tau = \text{const}##

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Frenet-Serret Formulae

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##(\Rightarrow)##WLOG, assume curve is unit speed parametrised. Then $$\frac{d}{ds} (T \cdot A) = T' \cdot A = \kappa N \cdot A \Rightarrow N \cdot A = 0$$ Then $$ \frac{d}{ds} (N \cdot A) = (- \kappa T + \tau B) \cdot A = 0$$ using the Frenet serret formulae. This is equal to ##-\kappa \cos \theta + \tau B \cdot A = 0##. I would nearly be there if I can show that ##B \cdot A = \text{const}##. I managed to see that ##A## lives in the plane spanned by T and B. So ##A = aT + bB## for some a and b. Then ##A \cdot A = 1 = a \cos \theta + b B \cdot A \Rightarrow B \cdot A = (1 - a \cos \theta)/b## which certainly is constant provided a and b are constant. But since T and B revolve around the curve, I think a and b are parameter dependent. So I don't think my argument works. Thanks for any help here. Any hints on how to start the reverse implication would be great too, thanks.
 
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Has anyone any pointers? thanks.
 
CAF123 said:
I would nearly be there if I can show that ##B \cdot A = \text{const}##.

Consider ##{d \over ds} \left( B \cdot A \right) ##.
 
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Hi voko! Thanks, I got it from that. Do you have any hints on the reverse implication please?
 
Since you have ##N \cdot A = 0##, ##A## must be in the T-B plane, as you concluded earlier. Your coefficients ##a## and ##b## are simply ##\cos \theta## and ##\sin \theta##. What condition do you get for ##\kappa, \tau## and ##\theta## from that? Can you use it to complete the proof?
 

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