Differentiate [ln(u)]/[1+ln(2u)]

In summary, the conversation discusses differentiating the function f(u)=\frac{\ln u}{1+\ln(2u)} using logarithmic differentiation or the quotient rule. The final result is f'(u)=\frac{1+\ln 2}{u[1+\ln(2u)]^2}, with a note that ln(2u) can be rewritten as ln2 + lnu. The conversation also addresses a mistake in expanding the squared term in the denominator.
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Homework Statement


Differentiate the function

[tex]f(u)=\frac{\ln u}{1+\ln(2u)}[/tex]


Homework Equations


- Quotient rule?
- Logarithmic differentiation?


The Attempt at a Solution


I just learned about logarithmic differentiation so I think the idea here was to use logarithmic differentiation.. however, with ln's on the top and bottom, I was unsure of how to go about that and used the quotient rule instead, which got nasty.

[tex]f(u)=\frac{\ln u}{1+\ln(2u)}[/tex]

[tex]f'(u)=\frac{(1+\ln(2u))\frac{d}{du}\ln u-\ln u\frac{d}{du}(1+\ln(2u))}{(1+\ln(2u))^2}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{(1+\ln(2u))\frac{1}{u}-\ln u(\frac{2}{2u})}{(1+2\ln(2u)+(\ln(2u))^2}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{\frac{1+\ln(2u)}{u}-\frac{\ln u}{u}}{(1+2\ln(2u)+(\ln(2u))^2}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1+\ln(2u)-\ln u}{u(1+2\ln(2u)+(\ln(2u))^2)}[/tex]

The book gives

[tex]f'(u)=\frac{1+\ln2}{u[1+\ln(2u)]^2}[/tex]

Oh my god that was a **** to type up :(
 
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note that ln(2u) = ln2 + lnu
 
  • #3
Integral said:
note that ln(2u) = ln2 + lnu
Thanks! I actually did not know that.. logs aren't my strength :/

That helps with the numerator, but not with the denumerator. Continuing from the last step:

[tex]\frac{1+\ln 2 + \ln u-\ln u}{u(1+2\ln 2+2\ln u + (\ln 2 + \ln u)^2)}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1+\ln 2}{u(1+2\ln 2+2\ln u + (\ln 2 + \ln u)^2)}[/tex]
 
  • #4
They did not expand the square, look at your first step.
 
  • #5
Integral said:
They did not expand the square, look at your first step.

Ah! Brilliant! Thank you! So I did get it :). Much appreciated.
 

1. What is the derivative of ln(u)/[1+ln(2u)]?

The derivative of ln(u)/[1+ln(2u)] is [1/(u(1+ln(2u)))]*[(1+ln(2u))(1/u)-ln(u)(1+1/(2u))].

2. How do I simplify the derivative of ln(u)/[1+ln(2u)]?

To simplify the derivative, you can use the quotient rule and the properties of logarithms to rewrite the expression as [1/(u(1+ln(2u)))]*[(1+ln(2u))(1/u)-ln(u)(1+1/(2u))]=[1/(u+ln(2u))].

3. Can I use the chain rule to differentiate ln(u)/[1+ln(2u)]?

Yes, you can use the chain rule to differentiate ln(u)/[1+ln(2u)]. The expression can be rewritten as ln(u)*[1/(1+ln(2u))], and then you can take the derivative using the chain rule.

4. What is the domain of the function ln(u)/[1+ln(2u)]?

The domain of the function ln(u)/[1+ln(2u)] is all real numbers greater than 0, since u and 2u must both be positive in order for the natural logarithm to be defined.

5. Can I simplify the expression ln(u)/[1+ln(2u)] further?

No, the expression cannot be simplified further. However, you can use algebraic manipulation to rewrite it in different forms, such as [ln(u)-ln(1+ln(2u))]/[ln(2u)] or [ln(u)/ln(2u)]/[1+ln(2u)/ln(u)].

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