Differentiation from first principles- - cant do at all

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The discussion revolves around understanding differentiation from first principles, specifically using the definition of the derivative. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the notation and the steps involved in applying this definition to a specific function.

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  • Participants discuss the definition of the derivative, questioning the notation used (upper-case delta vs. lower-case delta) and the application of function notation. There are attempts to clarify the meaning of the limit and how to set up the problem using specific values.

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Some participants have offered clarifications regarding the notation and suggested using function notation to better understand the problem. The original poster and others have expressed a need for further assistance, indicating that the discussion is ongoing and exploring various interpretations of the derivative definition.

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There is mention of a lack of clarity in the lecture material, which has contributed to the confusion. The original poster also notes that they are unsure about the notation and the steps required to solve the problem.

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see attachment- have to do this because i can't figure out how to do the notation in this part sorry... I have no idea where to go with this and probably need quite a bit of help with it--- thanks.


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The problem says "use the definition of derivative
[tex]\lim\frac{\delta y}{\delta x}[/tex]

Do you know what that means?
[tex]\frac{\delta y}{\delta x}= \frac{y(1+ \delta x)- y(1)}{\delta x}[/tex]

[itex]y(1)= 1^2- 1= 0[/itex] and [itex]y(1+ \delta x)= (1+ \delta x)^2- (1+ \delta x)[/itex].
 
hey - sorry bud i don't get any of that? - the lecture that we had talked for about 15s on this and I really don't understand it. more help would be GREATLY appreciated.
 
The derivative definition is usually presented using upper-case delta, [itex]\Delta[/itex] rather than lower-case delta, [itex]\delta[/itex] as you have.

It might be helpful to use function notation, letting f(x) = y = x2 - x. The derivative of f at 1 can be written this way:
[tex]\lim_{\Delta x \to 0} \frac{f(1 + \Delta x) - f(1)}{\Delta x}[/tex]

The fraction gives the slope of a secant line between (1, f(1)) and (1 + [itex]\Delta x[/itex], f(1 + [itex]\Delta x[/itex])). The numerator gives the vertical change (rise) and the denominator gives the horizontal change (run). As [itex]\Delta x[/itex] approaches zero, the slope of the secant line approaches the slope of the tangent line.

Substitute for f(1) and f(1 + [itex]\Delta x[/itex]) in the limit formula above, simplify, and then take the limit.

If you still don't understand, your text should have an explanation of this and some examples.
 
BTW, you should post calculus problems (like this one) in the Calculus & Beyond section.
 

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