Differentiation using first priciple

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The discussion revolves around the concept of differentiation using the first principle, specifically applying it to the function y = x² + 2. Participants are seeking clarification on how to approach this topic and relate it to the provided example.

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  • One participant requests an explanation of differentiation using the first principle, indicating a lack of understanding of the topic.
  • Another participant provides the limit definition of the derivative, starting the calculation for the given function.
  • Several participants express confusion and request that the explanation be directly related to the original question.
  • One participant questions whether interpreting the first principle as equivalent to the definition of differentiation is correct.
  • Another participant suggests watching a video as a resource for understanding the topic.
  • There are repeated expressions of uncertainty about differentiation using the first principle, with one participant emphasizing the need for basic algebra skills.
  • A participant challenges the original poster's inquiry by questioning their engagement with calculus coursework and foundational knowledge.

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Participants generally express confusion and uncertainty about differentiation using the first principle, with no consensus reached on the best approach or understanding of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight a potential gap in foundational knowledge, such as limits and algebraic manipulation, which may affect their understanding of the differentiation process.

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Can anyone explain differentiation using first principle please......this is a question that i have no understanding on how to deal with it
IF y=x^2 + 2 show that dy/dx using first principle equals to 2x
 
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$f'(x)=\displaystyle\lim_{h \to 0} \dfrac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}=\displaystyle\lim_{h \to 0} \dfrac{(x+h)^2+2-(x^2+2)}{h}=\ldots$
 
thanks can you please relate it to the question that i provided please, and thanks in advance
 
Mathkid12 said:
thanks can you please relate it to the question that i provided please, and thanks in advance

I interpret using first principle as equivalent to using the definition. Am I wrong?
 
well i really don't know because I PRESENTLY DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT Differentiation using first principle but thanks anywhere
 
Mathkid12 said:
well i really don't know because I PRESENTLY DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT Differentiation using first principle but thanks anywhere
Fernando Revilla has given you the first two steps. The next step should be clear: Expand the numerator and simplify. Then ...

If you really "DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT Differentiation using first principle" then the clicking on the suggested link is a start. Going to your textbook or class notes and reviewing an example is an even better start. Note that you need to be competent in basic algebraic skills, which might be something else worth reviewing.
 
Mathkid12 said:
well i really don't know because I PRESENTLY DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT Differentiation using first principle but thanks anywhere
Then my question would be why are you asking this question? Aren't you taking a Calculus class? Do you know how to take a limit? Do you know how to square a binomial?
 

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