Diode Rectification: Estimating Shutoff Time After Peak Voltage

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The discussion revolves around estimating the time after the peak input voltage when a diode in a full-wave bridge rectifier shuts off, given a specific input frequency and RC time constant. The context includes theoretical and mathematical reasoning related to diode rectification and capacitor discharge in an electrical circuit.

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  • One participant presents the problem of estimating the shutoff time after the peak voltage in a full-wave diode bridge rectifier circuit.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on the specific problem to be solved.
  • A participant explains that the voltage across a capacitor discharges exponentially when a resistor load is applied and suggests deriving the expression for this voltage.
  • Further, a participant proposes setting the rate of change of the capacitor voltage equal to the rate of change of the input sine wave voltage to find the shutoff time.
  • Another participant agrees with this approach and encourages working through the calculations to check if the result aligns with expectations.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and approaches to the problem, but there is no consensus on the specific method to estimate the shutoff time or the correctness of the proposed equations.

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Some participants reference the need to derive expressions and consider the initial rate of change of voltage, indicating potential gaps in assumptions or steps in the mathematical reasoning.

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1. The question.
Suppose that the input frequency into a full-wave diode bridge rectifier is 60Hz, and suppose that the RC time constant of the network filter capacitor and the load resistance is 10ms.
Estimate the time after the peak input voltage when the diode shuts off.

The circuit looks like this:
http://Newton.ex.ac.uk/teaching/cdhw/Electronics2/PHY2003-C14.2.gif

Homework Equations


I have no idea where to start. I do know that the ripple voltage equation for full wave rectification is:

\Delta V = \frac{I_{load}}{fC}

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that after the voltage hits it's peak value, the voltage decays at both the rate of discharge of the capacitor and the sinusoidal input. I also know that I have to find the time it takes for the decreasing rate to become dependent only on the discharge of the capacitor.
 
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Suppose you tell us what you're supposed to solve?
 
Sorry, lol.

Question: Estimate the time after the peak input voltage when the diode shuts off.
 
Suppose that you have a capacitor charged up to some voltage, and suddenly apply a resistor load. The voltage across the capacitor will then discharge exponentially. Do you know how to derive the expression for the voltage across the capacitor? Then, having that expression, do you know how to derive the initial rate of change (slope) of that voltage?

Does this give you any ideas?
 
The Electrician said:
Suppose that you have a capacitor charged up to some voltage, and suddenly apply a resistor load. The voltage across the capacitor will then discharge exponentially. Do you know how to derive the expression for the voltage across the capacitor? Then, having that expression, do you know how to derive the initial rate of change (slope) of that voltage?

Does this give you any ideas?

Yeah sorta. I knew that I had to do:

V_{c} = V_{p}(1-e^{\frac{-t}{RC}})
\frac{dV_{c}}{dt} = \frac{-V_{p}e^{\frac{-t}{RC}}}{RC}

Should I just set this equal to the rate of change of the voltage of the input sine wave? I.e.:
\frac{dV_{c}}{dt} = \frac{-V_{p}e^{\frac{-t}{RC}}}{RC} = -(2\pi f) V_{c}cos{(2\pi f t)}
 
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That's what I would do. Work it out and see if the number you get makes sense; it should be just a little past the peak of the sine wave.
 

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