Dipole and Quadrupole moments and axial symmetry

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The discussion centers on the mathematical demonstration of the nullification of electric and magnetic dipole moments in charge or current distributions exhibiting axial symmetry. Participants emphasize that for such distributions, both the electric dipole moment and the magnetic dipole moment are zero, along with the off-diagonal elements of the quadrupole moment. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding these concepts in the context of axial symmetry in electromagnetic theory.

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  • Understanding of electric dipole moment and magnetic dipole moment
  • Familiarity with quadrupole moment concepts
  • Knowledge of axial symmetry in charge distributions
  • Basic principles of electromagnetic theory
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Homework Statement
Show that if the charge (or current) distribution has axial symmetry then the electric (or magnetic) dipole moment is null.
Show that the quadrupole moments Qij with i different from j are null under the same conditions.
Relevant Equations
Electric Dipole Moment Equation.
Magnetic Dipole Moment Equation.
Quadrupole Moment Equation.
Hello, I would like to find a mathematical demonstration of this problem. While I have always used it, I could never prove it. Given a charge or current distribution with axial symmetry the electric and magnetic dipole moment are null:

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(electric dipole moment)

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(magnetic dipole moment)and that the elements outside the diagonal of the quadrupole moment are also canceled:

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(Quadrupole moment)From already thank you very much. (excuse my English, I use a translator).
 
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lapantufla said:
Homework Statement:: Show that if the charge (or current) distribution has axial symmetry then the electric (or magnetic) dipole moment is null.
Seems to me something was lost in translation: even the simplest dipole example has axial symmetry.

re lapantufla: does it have a meaning in your language ?
 

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