Dirac Delta Function - unfamiliar definition

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The discussion revolves around the Dirac delta function, particularly exploring its definitions and properties beyond the standard interpretations. Participants examine its relationship with Fourier transforms and the implications of treating it as a distribution rather than a conventional function.

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  • One participant notes the standard definitions of the Dirac delta function and questions whether there are alternative definitions involving exponentials, specifically in the context of integrals.
  • Another participant asserts that the Dirac delta function is proportional to the Fourier transform of the constant function equal to 1, mentioning that this leads to a factor of (2π)³δ³(k).
  • The same participant emphasizes that the Fourier transform should be understood in the context of distributions, rather than standard functions, and points out that the integral of e^{ixy} does not conform to Riemann integration.
  • There is a mention of the delta function being the derivative of the Heaviside function in the sense of distributions.
  • One participant links to another thread for what they describe as a non-rigorous argument regarding the topic.
  • Casual remarks about personal connections among participants are made, which do not contribute to the technical discussion.

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Participants express differing views on the definitions and interpretations of the Dirac delta function, particularly regarding its mathematical treatment and the validity of certain integrals. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Some participants acknowledge the limitations of their arguments, particularly regarding the rigor of the integrals involved and the definitions of the Dirac delta function as distributions.

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Given:

[tex]f(x)=\delta(x-a)[/tex]

Other than the standard definitions where f(x) equals zero everywhere except at a, where it's infinity, and that:

[tex]\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} g(x)\delta(x-a)\,dx=g(a)[/tex]

Is there some kind of other definition involving exponentials, like:

[tex]\int e^{ix(k'-k)}d^3x=\delta^3(k'-k)[/tex]

I remember learning something about this, but can't find a proof of it in any textbook or online at the moment, and I don't trust my memory enough to know if this is precise. Any thoughts?
 
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yes, the dirac delta function is proportional to the Fourier transform of the constant function equal to 1. You actually get [itex](2\pi)^3\delta^3(k)[/itex].
To be rigorous, the Fourier transform is defined in terms of distributions and not just standard functions. It is not a standard Riemann integral, although physicists often treat it as such.

The proof could go like the following. If f is a Fourier transformable function with transform [itex]\hat f[/itex]
[tex] \begin{align*}<br /> \int f(x) \left(\int e^{ixy}\,dy\right)\,dx<br /> &=<br /> \int \left(\int e^{ixy}f(x)\,dx\right)\,dy\\<br /> &= \int \hat f(y) dy<br /> \end{align*}[/tex]
Using z=0, the last line is
[tex] \int \hat f(y)e^{-iyz}\,dy = 2\pi f(z)=2\pi f(0)[/tex]
-- using the inverse Fourier transform. Compare this to [itex]\int f(x)\delta(x)\,dx = f(0)[/itex].

This is a bit sketchy, because the integral of [itex]e^{ixy}[/itex] doesn't make sense using the Riemann integral.

Also, the delta function is the derivative of the Heaviside function f(x)=1{x>0}, in the sense of distributions.
 
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Check out this thread for a very non-rigorous argument.
 
Wow... Irrelevant, but that nicksauce guy who started the other thread is a good friend of mine in RL. I'm going to call him now!

Ha, small world.

Oh, and I understood the (false) justifications, thanks.
 
Lol small world indeed
 

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