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The discussion revolves around the challenge of directing photons emitted from a white light source in a single direction. Participants explore design ideas and optical components that could facilitate this goal, including layered materials and lens configurations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a model involving a layered design with a light source at the bottom and a top layer that directs emitted photons, questioning the feasibility of using materials with specific indices of refraction for total internal reflection.
  • Another participant suggests using a spherical light source positioned at the focus of a converging lens as a method to direct white light photons, indicating a preference for a rectangular design but acknowledging the potential of the spherical approach.
  • A later reply recommends considering a Fresnel lens or zone plate for a flatter design, which could offer additional possibilities for directing light.

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Participants express different design preferences and approaches, with no consensus on a single method for achieving the goal of directing photons. Multiple competing views remain regarding the optimal configuration.

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Participants discuss the limitations of materials with specific refractive indices and the precision required in directing light, but do not resolve these issues or provide definitive solutions.

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Hi all,

So I'm working on a project, and I'm having some design issues. I need a method of taking a white light source, and directing all of the photons that it emits in a single direction. I have a model in mind, involving an arrangement of layered components.

Bottom layer: Light source. Rectangular panel as simple as a thin box with opaque or reflective sides and bottom, a transparent top, and some LEDs inside. This is only an example. Layer one just needs to emit white light.

Top layer: Placed on top of the bottom layer. Photons emitted from the bottom layer that pass through this layer travel in a perpendicular direction (or close to) when they leave through the other side.

So obviously my confusion is with the top layer. The only idea that has come to me deals with using layers of materials with specific indices of refraction such that photons creating too large of an incident angle will undergo total internal reflection. The problem with this is that it requires some material with a sufficently large index of refraction which I don't even think exists.

Any suggestions? Places to start researching?
For any information you can provide, thank you for your help!
 
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I need a method of taking a white light source, and directing all of the photons that it emits in a single direction.
How would you get white light photons?

Why not make a spherical source and put it at the focus of a converging lens?
 
Simon Bridge said:
How would you get white light photons?

Why not make a spherical source and put it at the focus of a converging lens?

As a matter of fact, I really like that idea. I was going for a more rectangular look, which is what prevented me from considering that. But that is definitely one possibility. Whether or not I can use that depends on how precisely I can direct the light. Thanks for the idea! :)
 
SuperFrisbie said:
As a matter of fact, I really like that idea. I was going for a more rectangular look, which is what prevented me from considering that. But that is definitely one possibility. Whether or not I can use that depends on how precisely I can direct the light. Thanks for the idea! :)
For a flatter design and perhaps more possibilities you could think of using a Fresnel lens or zone plate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnel_lens
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_plate
 

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