Direct Stiffness Method for Analyzing Tripod Frame with Equally Spaced Legs

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The discussion revolves around the analysis of a tripod frame structure using the direct stiffness method. Participants explore the application of this method to a structure with equally spaced legs and fixed joints, considering both 2D and 3D stress conditions, as well as the effects of lateral restraint and friction at the feet.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using polar coordinates to represent the legs of the tripod, questioning how this would affect the transformation of the stiffness matrix to global coordinates.
  • Another participant proposes drawing free body diagrams for each leg, treating them as beams under 2D stress conditions, and calculating tensile and shear stresses while considering uniformly acting loads.
  • Some participants note that due to symmetry, the stresses in each beam will be similar.
  • Concerns are raised about the structure being statically indeterminate due to fixed joints, which leads to the exploration of the stiffness method for analysis.
  • There is a suggestion that the load at the center can be divided equally among the beams due to symmetry, with vertical components supporting the load and horizontal components canceling out.
  • A participant mentions the need for a drawing to clarify the structure being discussed, emphasizing that this is not a homework problem but rather a conceptual exploration.
  • Discussion includes the importance of considering lateral restraint and friction at the tripod feet, with questions about how to incorporate this into the stiffness method.
  • One participant shares their experience with ANSYS simulations, noting discrepancies in stress levels when analyzing the structure as a whole versus treating one leg as fixed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the analysis methods, with some agreeing on the symmetry of the stresses while others raise concerns about the implications of fixed joints and the application of lateral restraint. No consensus is reached on the best approach to analyze the structure.

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Limitations include the potential over-constraining of the problem when treating one leg as fixed, and the unresolved mathematical steps regarding the incorporation of friction into the stiffness method.

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Let's say you have part of frame contacting the ground, such as the feet on the base of the tripod. Assuming each leg is equally spaced around a center post, how would you go about analyzing this type of structure? I'm trying to teach myself how to use the stiffness method, but all the examples I find are simple 2D beam structures. Would I use polar coordinates instead of Cartesian to represent the legs being equally spaced? How would the transformation of the stiffness matrix to global coordinates work if polar coordinates were used?
 
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I think if i were to analyze this structure, i would draw Free body diagrams of all the three supporting structures, treat each of them like a beam if it is a case of 2D stress condition and calculate the tensile and shear stress in each using the basic equations of the beams. I would also take into account a uniformly acting load because of their weight.
Please do take care about the force direction. Most probably, we would have to calculate the components of the forces and solve the problems. In case there is a 3D state of stress, we can calculate the stresses by first ignoring the loads in one of the dimension(thus making it a 2D stress condition) and then calculating stress. Similarly ignoring the first load(thus again making it a 2D stress condition) and then superimpose the stresses on an element. Thus the final state of stress on an element will be 3D stresses only.

I am currently working on a similar problem. Let's discuss this further! :biggrin:
 
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Assuming each leg is equally spaced around a center post
The stresses in each beam will be exactly similar due to symmetry.
 
Are you talking about using the equilibrium equations to solve for the forces? My problem is this structure is welded together and so the joints are fixed and not pinned, which in my mind would make the structure statically indeterminate, which is why I'm researching the stiffness method. Also the load in my case would be a vertical force on the center tube to which all the legs connect, so the only stresses experiences by the joints would be vertical shear, moments, and tensile forces.
 
Post a drawing of your structure.
 
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Assuming the joint to be rigid, the 3 beams can be approximated to be under 2 dimensional load and stress analysis can still be carried out. Whatever load is acting at the centre, can be divided equally among the beams because of symmetry. Remember that beams can only exert a reaction force along the axis of the beam, so three forces will be acting along the beam outwards. The vertical components of the beam will support the load while the horizontal component will be 120 degrees apart and will cancel out.
I strongly believe that the problem can be solved using this method.
What do you think?
 
I probably should have included a drawing of what is in my head. This is not a homework problem of any sort, just something I thought up when learning about the direct stiffness analysis. If the tripod had crossmember reinforcements as shown (horizontal to ground) then I believe that would result in more reactions/unknowns than there are equilibrium equations. This is why I am using the stiffness method to examine this problem. I have not yet seen any examples in any text illustrating the correct approach for this type of structure.
 
Here is the drawing
 

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Just as a note, the analysis must include the assumed lateral restraint, i.e., the coefficient of friction, between the tripod feet and the supporting surface.
 
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Correct, but I'm not sure how applying that restraint would be worked into the stiffness method. The equation to solve for the nodal displacements is:
[f] = [K]{u}, where [K] is the master stiffness matrix comprised of the beam properties A, E, I, and L and [f] is the applied loading. Nodes are always assumed to either be fixed for a certain DOF and have a value of zero, otherwise they are left alone and solved for via {u} = [K]-1[f].

You can solve for the reactions at the feet initially without having to go through any complicated math. The vertical reaction at each foot would have to be 1/3 of the applied load on the center post. Then the force of friction opposing the outward, 'radial' movement of the feet would be μs*(F/3). Knowing this, would I then use that value as an applied force in my force matrix for the above method to account for friction? That seems incorrect though as it technically is not an applied load.
 
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gomerpyle,

What you are suggesting is straightforward an can be viewed as essentially "inverting" the problem by applying the loads at the feet and treating the top of the stand as a fixed reaction point rather than a load input point.
 
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That's what I tried initially, but what I found running ANSYS simulations was the results yielded noticeably higher stress levels using the above method than if I were to simply analyze the structure as a whole with all three legs connected to a center tube, and with a frictional contact on the feet. So somehow considering only one leg with the attachments to the tube as completely "fixed" seemed to over-constrain the problem and raise the stress values.
 

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