Direction of Normal Force on Object B: A Scientific Inquiry

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the direction of the normal force exerted on an object (B) in contact with a rod. The context involves mechanics, specifically the behavior of forces in contact scenarios where friction is absent.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the normal force and the geometry of the rod, questioning how the normal force can remain perpendicular to the rod despite changes in angle. There are inquiries about the implications of moving the rod and the nature of contact at different points along its length.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing references and clarifications regarding the normal force's behavior in point contact scenarios. Some guidance has been offered, but there is still uncertainty regarding specific conditions and interpretations of the normal force at the edges of the rod.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of hints in the original problem statement and express confusion about the definitions and implications of normal force in relation to the rod's orientation and contact points.

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Homework Statement


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The Attempt at a Solution


Can somebody please assist me in finding the direction of the normal force exerted on B? (How is normal force at B also normal to the rod? )

There is no hint provided from which I can conclude the direction of normal force. Can somebody please provide a hint so I can work it out?

P.S

Contact force = Normal force since friction is 0.
 
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If only one has a tangent plane (as in the picture), use that.

Reference https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/frequently-made-errors-mechanics-friction/

Can you please clarify this point?

My confusion regarding this:
Considering the diagram given on the section 1 of the reference page, if we were to move the rod at a very very small angle keeping the contact point constant, the direction of the normal force will remain same but it won't necessarily be perpendicular to the rod.
 
Faiq said:
I am perfectly aware of this problem and here I am sure I am not making that error.
I do not understand your response. That section tells you how to figure out the direction of the normal force in a point contact like the one in this question. Isn't that what you wanted to know?
 
Please see the edit.
 
Faiq said:
if we were to move the rod at a very very small angle, the direction of the normal force will remain same
No, it would move exactly as the rod moves and remain perpendicular. Why not?
 
Oh. So no matter how the surface of contact is, if my rod is a straight rod the contact force will always be perpendicular to the surface of rod?

But this point will not apply for the edges of the rod right? Because the straightness ends over there?
 
Faiq said:
if my rod is a straight rod the contact force will always be perpendicular to the surface of rod?
Yes. It follows from the definition of normal force that I give at the start of the section.
Faiq said:
this point will not apply for the edges of the rod right?
It will not apply at the tips, no, because there is no well-defined contact plane there. Generally you will be able to figure out the contact plane from what the tip touches, as in the question above where it rests in the bowl.
 
Thank you very much.
 

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