Direction of Reaction Force on Beam in Torque Problem

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The discussion revolves around a torque problem involving a beam and the forces exerted by a wall on the beam. Participants are exploring the nature of the forces and torques acting on the beam, particularly questioning the direction of the reaction force from the wall.

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  • Participants are attempting to determine the direction of the force exerted by the wall on the beam, with some suggesting it is upward to the right. Others are questioning the equilibrium state of the beam and discussing the implications of torques and forces.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of the beam's equilibrium status being explored. Some participants have offered insights into the relationship between forces and torques, while others are seeking clarification on these concepts.

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There is a mention of differing views on whether the beam is in equilibrium, with references to the torques caused by the beam's weight and the wall. Participants are also considering the implications of Newton's first law in this context.

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Here's an image of the problem I trying to do.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1765/torquequestionqv0.th.gif

I'm wondering if there is a force exerted by the wall on the beam, and if so in which direction? I think it's pointed upward to the right, but I'm not too sure.

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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DANIELLYMA said:
Here's an image of the problem I trying to do.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1765/torquequestionqv0.th.gif

I'm wondering if there is a force exerted by the wall on the beam, and if so in which direction? I think it's pointed upward to the right, but I'm not too sure.

Any help would be appreciated.
There is a force and a torque exerted by the wall on the beam. The magnitude and direction of each is determined from equilibrium considerations...sum of forces = 0 and sum of torques =0. Don't confuse torques wuth forces. The force of the wall on the beam does not have a rightward component.
 
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I don't undestand what you mean. The beam is not in equilibrium, and I know torque caused by the wall is zero, but I was wondering what's the direction of the force exerted by the wall.
 
DANIELLYMA said:
I don't undestand what you mean. The beam is not in equilibrium, and I know torque caused by the wall is zero, but I was wondering what's the direction of the force exerted by the wall.
What makes you say the beam is not in equilibrium? The beam is supported into the wall which exerts a torque about point P, which is equal and opposite to the torque caused by the beam's weight about point B. Now you wish to go one step further and determine the direction of the force on the wall on the beam. What does Newton's first law tell you about in which direction the net force of the wall on the beam must be??
 
My teacher told me it wasn't in equilibrium since there is a torque.
 
DANIELLYMA said:
My teacher told me it wasn't in equilibrium since there is a torque.
There are two torques...one caused by the weight (10(9.8)(2) = 196n.m), and one caused by the wall (-196n.m). Bt this is really an engineering statics question, and i suppose your teacher might argue that the beam is rotating about a pin at joint P , in which case, no torque would be supplied by the wall. But nevertheless, there still exists a force at the wall acting on the beam, and since the beams weight always acts vertically down, then the reaction force of the wall on the beam must act --------(fill in the blank).
 

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