Directional Derivative and Gradient Problem

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the direction of the vector along which an object is moving in a three-dimensional space, given its parametric position function over time. The focus is on the application of calculus concepts, specifically differentiation and vector analysis, to determine the velocity vector and its direction.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about how to find the direction of the vector for an object moving in space, given its position function.
  • Another participant suggests that differentiation of the parametric function can yield the velocity vector, which can then be used to determine the direction.
  • A different participant calculates the velocity vector by differentiating the position function and provides the resulting vector at a specific time.
  • There is a clarification about the meaning of "direction," with one participant explaining that it refers to a unit vector derived from the velocity vector.
  • Further discussion includes the process of finding the magnitude of the velocity vector to obtain the unit direction vector.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method of finding the direction vector through differentiation and the calculation of the unit vector. However, there are nuances in how "direction" is interpreted, particularly regarding whether it refers to a direction vector or spherical angles.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of direction and the context of the problem may not be explicitly stated, and the discussion does not resolve how to interpret the direction in terms of angles.

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Suppose that an object is moving in a space V, so that its position at time t is
given by r=(x,y,z)= (3sin πt, t^2, 1+t)

How to find the direction of the vector along which the cat is moving
at t = 1?

I have no idea where to find out the direction of the vector along which the object is moving.
 
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It seems like you wouldn't even need to use the gradient or a directional derivative to do this. If you took AB/BC Calc you might remember how to differentiate a parametric function of one variable, you can do that and then you'll get that velocity vector, from there the direction should fall straight out (directly if all you need is a direction vector, and with a little bit of trigonometry if you want angles).

If you need help, remember that ##\frac{d}{dt}r(t)= (x(t),y(t),(z(t)) \Rightarrow (\frac{d}{dt}x(t),\frac{d}{dt}y(t),\frac{d}{dt}z(t))##
 
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By differentiating them with respect to t, I should get the velocity vector (x,y,z) = (3 π cos π t, 2t , 1). Then substitute t = 1, (x,y,z) = (-3π, 2, 1).
This is my velocity vector. So how I get the director of the vector when t=1?
 
As I said, it depends on what you mean by direction. When my professor asks for a direction, he means a direction vector; a.k.a. a unit vector in the direction of the velocity vector. Remember this is accomplished by dividing all three components by the magnitude (length) of the vector, which you find through the pythagorean theorem.

If you want actual spherical angle directions, you'll have to work through the trig.
 
Sorry, my mistake.:smile:
So if I am looking for direction vector, I just get this (-3π, 2, 1)/(magnitude of this vector (-3π, 2, 1)) where (-3π, 2, 1)=the velocity vector?
 
Yes, and the magnitude will be ##\sqrt{(-3\pi)^2+4+1}##.
 
Understood, thank you very much :smile:
 
thank you... very helpful!
 

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