Directional derivative — 101 discussions

  1. S

    Deriving spatial derivatives

    See photo. First, I see that I get more standard results by crossing theta before phi. What's the importance of that? Also I'd get more standard results by allowing some r or sine factors to leave their derivative enclosures and unify.
  2. L

    Undergrad Does the gradient map from R^n to R^n for a scalar function?

    İf $$f:\mathbb{R^n}\to \mathbb{R}$$ then $$\nabla f:\mathbb{R^n}\to \mathbb{R^n}$$ $$x\to \nabla f(x)$$ is true?
  3. chwala

    Undergrad Find the directional derivative of ##f## at the given point

    Going through this now: pretty straightforward i just want to check that i have covered all aspects including any other approach... Ok for 15. I have, ##\nabla f= (yz \cos (xyz), xz \cos (xyz), xy \cos (xyz) )## so, ##D_v f(1,1,1) = \textbf v ⋅\nabla f(1,1,1)##=##\left(\dfrac...
  4. S

    Direction in which directional derivative is zero

    I want to ask about the direction in which ##D_v## is zero at point (1, 2, 1) My attempt: $$w_x=yz+\frac{1}{x}$$ $$w_y=xz+\frac{1}{y}$$ $$w_z=xy+\frac{1}{z}$$ At point (1, 2, 1), the ##\nabla w=<3, \frac{3}{2}, 3>## $$D_v w=0$$ $$\nabla w \cdot v=0$$ $$ \begin{pmatrix} 3 \\ \frac{3}{2} \\ 3...
  5. S

    Existence of directional derivative

    My attempt: I have proved (i), it is continuous since ##\lim_{(x,y)\rightarrow (0,0)}=f(0,0)## I also have shown the partial derivative exists for (ii), where ##f_x=0## and ##f_y=0## I have a problem with the directional derivative. Taking u = <a, b> , I got: $$Du =\frac{\sqrt[3] y}{3 \sqrt[3]...
  6. Delta2

    Undergrad From a proof on directional derivatives

    Given that the partial derivatives of a function ##f(x,y)## exist and are continuous, how can we prove that the following limit $$\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{f(x+hv_x,y+hv_y)-f(x,y+hv_y)}{h}=v_x\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}(x,y)$$ I can understand why the factor ##v_x## (which is viewed as a constant )...
  7. Poetria

    Directional derivative and hiking

    $$h_x=y$$ $$h_y=x$$ Substituting the coordinates of a given point: $$y'=-\frac {y} {x}$$ $$y'=-\frac {1} {2}$$ A unit vector: $$\frac {1} {\sqrt{5}, \frac {2} {\sqrt{5}}$$ $$D_\vec u h(2,1) = \frac {1} {\sqrt{5}, \frac {2} {\sqrt{5}} \cdot \vec (1,2)$$ $$D_\vec u h(2,1) = \frac {5} {\sqrt{5}}$$
  8. A

    Problem with a directional derivative calculation

    Good day I have a problem regarding the directional derivative (look at the example below) in this example, we try to find the directional derivatives according to the two approaches ( the definition with the limit and the dot product of the vector gradient and the vector direction) in this...
  9. A

    Why directional derivative differs from normalized gradient dot product

    this is the function and this is the solution in which the definition has been used my question is Why we can not use the traditional approach? I mean calculation the partial derivative which equals 0 in our case? And doing the dot product with the vector v (after normalizing it) many...
  10. Saptarshi Sarkar

    Directional derivative calculation gives 194.4 instead of 540

    I tried to calculate the directional derivative but the answer that I found was 194.4 but the answer marked in the book was 540. I tried a lot but couldn't understand what my mistake was. Please let me know what mistake I did.
  11. D

    What is the Correct Directional Derivative for Vector w in the Given Scenario?

    i compute the partial derivative, the vector that i have to use the one in the text or w=(2/(5^(1/2)), 1/(5^(1/2))) using the last one i get minus square root of five , if i don't divide by the norm the answer should be B. i don't understand what D means
  12. A

    Finding Directional Derivative

    The gradient is < (2x-y), (-x+2y-1) > at P(1,-1) the gradient is <3, -4> Since ∇f⋅u= Direction vector, it seems that we should set the equation equal to the desired directional derivative. < 3, -4 > ⋅ < a, b > = 4 which becomes 3a-4b=4 I thought of making a list of possible combinations...
  13. Math Amateur

    Tangent plane equation from directional derivatives in Fortney

    I am reading Jon Pierre Fortney's book: A Visual Introduction to Differential Forms and Calculus on Manifolds ... and am currently focused on Chapter 2: An Introduction to Differential Forms ...I need help to understand some remarks by Fortney following Theorems 2.1 and 2.2 on the directional...
  14. Math Amateur

    Undergrad Directional derivative of f(x)=x in Fortney 2.4(a)(i)

    I am reading Jon Pierre Fortney's book: A Visual Introduction to Differential Forms and Calculus on Manifolds ... and am currently focused on Chapter 2: An Introduction to Differential Forms ... I need help with Question 2.4 (a) (i) concerned with computing a directional derivative ...
  15. G

    Undergrad Existence of Directional Derivative in Normed Linear Space

    Given a finite-dimensional normed linear space ##(L,\lVert \cdot \rVert)##, is there anything that suggests that at every point ##x_0 \in L##, there exists a direction ##\delta \in L## such that that ##\lVert x_0 + t\delta \rVert \geqslant \lVert x_0 \rVert## for all ##t \in \mathbb{R}##?
  16. Math Amateur

    How does ||a + t(a/||a||)|| = (||a|| - t)?

    I am reading the book: Multivariable Mathematics by Theodore Shifrin ... and am focused on Section 3.1 Partial Derivatives and Directional Derivatives ... I need some help with Example 3 in Chapter 3, Section 1 ... Example 3 in Chapter 3, Section 1 reads as follows:In the above text we read...
  17. betamu

    Find Directional Derivative at Given Point in Direction of Given Vector

    Homework Statement [/B] Find the directional derivative of the function at the given point in the direction of the vector v. $$g(s,t)=s\sqrt t, (2,4), \vec{v}=2\hat{i} - \hat{j}$$ Homework Equations $$\nabla g(s,t) = <g_s(s,t), g_t(s,t)>\\ \vec{u} = \vec{v}/|\vec{v}|\\ D_u g(s,t) = \nabla...
  18. M

    Undergrad Directional Derivative demonstration

    I find directional derivatives confusing. For example if there is a change in a direction and if this direction have both x and y components should not the change be calculated as square root of squares, i.e the pythogores theorem? Would you please provide a simple demonstration showing the...
  19. Math Amateur

    Directional derivative in scalar fields vs vector fields

    I need some guidance regarding the directional derivative ... Two books I am reading introduce the directional derivative somewhat differently ... these books are as follows: Theodore Shifrin: Multivariable Mathematics and Susan Jane Colley: Vector Calculus (Second Edition)Colley...
  20. Mr Davis 97

    Undergrad Directional Derivative: Why Must Vector Be Unit Vector?

    I know that ##D_{\vec{v}} f = \nabla f \cdot \vec{v}## is the directional derivative. My question is why must the vector ##\vec{v}## be a unit vector? I am sure there is an obvious answer, but my book doesn't really explain it.
  21. M

    Undergrad How is a vector a directional derivative?

    I'm going through a basic introduction to tensors, specifically https://web2.ph.utexas.edu/~jcfeng/notes/Tensors_Poor_Man.pdf and I'm confused by the author when he defines vectors as directional derivatives at the bottom of page 3. He defines a simple example in which ƒ(x^j) = x^1 and then...
  22. W

    Undergrad Directional derivative: identity

    Hi all, According to wikipedia: Can someone explain to me with a mathematical proof the following: $$ \frac {\partial f(x)} {\partial v} = \hat v \cdot \nabla f(x) $$ I don't get this identity except the special example where the partial derivative of f(x) wrt x is a special kind of a...
  23. Drakkith

    Directional Derivative at an Angle with a 3d Gradient

    Homework Statement Find the directional derivative using ##f\left(x,y,z\right)=xy+z^2## at the point (4, 2, 1) in the direction of a vector making an angle of ##\frac{3π}{4}## with ##\nabla f(4, 2, 1)##. Homework Equations ##f\left(x,y,z\right)=xy+z^2##The Attempt at a Solution I found the...
  24. Drakkith

    Directional Derivative at an Angle from the Gradient

    Homework Statement (a) Find the directional derivative of z = x2y at (3,4) in the direction of 3π/4 with the x-axis. Give an exact answer. (b) Find the directional derivative of z = x2y at (3,4) in the direction that makes an angle of 3π/4 with the gradient vector at (3,4). Give an exact...
  25. T

    Undergrad Problem with directional derivative

    Hi guys! i have a problem, and I'm unable to solvie it :/ I have this two variable function: it is 0 in {0,0} while it is (x^3 y^2)/(x^2+Abs(y)^(2a)) elsewhere. do...given the vector {l1,l2} they are asking me: for which "a" the directional derivative along that vector exist in {0,0}? and when...
  26. Amrator

    Finding a Directional Derivative Given Other Directional Derivatives

    Homework Statement Suppose ##D_if(P) = 2## and ##D_jf(P) = -1##. Also suppose that ##D_uf(P) = 2 \sqrt{3}## when ##u = 3^{-1/2} \hat i + 3^{-1/2} \hat j + 3^{-1/2} \hat k##. Find ##D_vf(P)## where ##v = 3^{-1/2}(\hat i + \hat j - \hat k)##. Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a Solution...
  27. R

    Undergrad Is the Jacobian Directional Derivative for a Sphere Correct?

    Hi For a sphere: x = r*cos(a)*sin(o) y = r*sin(a) z = -r*cos(a)*cos(o) where r is radius, a is latitude and o is longitude, the directional derivative (dx,dy,dz) is the jacobian multiplied by a unit vector (vx,vy,vz), right? So i get: dx = cos(a)*sin(o)*vx - r*sin(a)*sin(o)*vy +...
  28. Destroxia

    How Do You Calculate the Directional Derivative of a Function at a Point?

    Homework Statement Find the directional derivative of ##f## at ##P## in the direction of ##a##. ## f(x,y) = 2x^3y^3 ; P(3,4) ; a = 3i - 4j ## Homework Equations ## D_u f(x_0, y_0, z_0) = f_x(x_0, y_0, z_0)u_1 + f_y(x_0, y_0, z_0)u_2 ## The Attempt at a Solution ## f_x (x,y) = 6x^2y^3##...
  29. RaulTheUCSCSlug

    Directional Derivative of Lake Depth at Point (-1, 2) in Direction (4, 1)

    Having a melt down as I have done this problem twice now and my exam is tomorrow and I can't seem to figure it out anymore... ugh. 1. Homework Statement The depth of a lake at the point on the surface with coordinates (x, y ) is given by D(x, y ) = 100−4x 2 −y 2 . a) If a boat at the point (−1...
  30. C

    Directional derivative at a point

    Homework Statement Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a Solution part a) finding partial derivatives: and plugging in (2,0,1) into each, I get the gradient which is <0,-2,0> to find the directional derivative, it is the dot product of the gradient and unit vector of (3,1,1): part b)...
  31. D

    What is the directional derivative of F at point P(1,2,1) with given direction?

    For a direction determined by $dx=2dy=-2dz$, find the directional derivative of $F=x^2+y^2+z^2$ at P(1,2,1) I had no problem getting the gradient of F and evaluating it at P but when I take the directional derivative I'm stuck! I don't know how come up with a unit vector that should be dotted...
  32. I

    Directional derivative of f(x,y) = x(1+y)^-1 at (0,0)

    Homework Statement [/B] find directional derivative at point (0,0) in direction u = (1, -1) for f(x,y) = x(1+y)^-1The Attempt at a Solution grad f(x,y) = ( (1+y)^-1, -x(1+y)^-2 ) grad f(0,0) = (1, 0) grad f(x,y) . u = (1,0).(1,-1) = 1. seems easy but markscheme says I am wromg. It says...
  33. &

    Graduate Tangent vectors as directional derivatives

    I have a few conceptual questions that I'd like to clear up if possible. The first is about directional derivatives in general. If one has a function f defined in some region and one wishes to know the rate of change of that function (i.e. its derivative) along a particular direction in that...
  34. I

    What Directions at Point (2, 0) Make the Rate of Change -1 for f(x, y) = xy?

    Homework Statement In what directions at the point (2, 0) does the function f(x, y) = xy have rate of change -1?D_{u}(f)(a,b) = \bigtriangledown f(a,b)\cdot (u_{1}, u_{2}) f(x,y) = xy (a,b) = (2,0). The Attempt at a Solution \frac{\partial f}{\partial x} = y \frac{\partial f}{\partial y} =...
  35. I

    How Do You Find the Gradient Vector from a Directional Derivative?

    Homework Statement D_{u}(f)(a,b) = \triangledown f(a,b)\cdot u D_{(\frac{1}{\sqrt2}, \frac{1}{\sqrt2})}(f)(a,b) = 3 \sqrt{2} where u = (\frac{1}{\sqrt2}, \frac{1}{\sqrt2}) find \bigtriangledown f(a.b) Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a Solution first you change grad f into it's partial...
  36. E

    Find two angles where the directional derivative is 1 at p0

    1. Given a function f(x,y) at (x0,y0). Find the two angles the directional derivative makes with the x-axis, where the directional derivative is 1. The angles lie in (-pi,pi]. 2. f(x,y) = sec(pi/14)*sqrt(x^2 + y^2) p0 = (6,6) 3. I use the relation D_u = grad(f) * u, where u is the...
  37. &

    Graduate Tangent vectors as equivalence classes of curves

    I understand that a tangent vector, tangent to some point p on some n-dimensional manifold \mathcal{M} can defined in terms of an equivalence class of curves [\gamma] (where the curves are defined as \gamma: (a,b)\rightarrow U\subset\mathcal{M}, passing through said point, such that \gamma (0)=...
  38. thegreengineer

    Undergrad Directional derivative and gradient definition confusion

    Recently I started with multivariable calculus; where I have seen concepts like multivariable function, partial derivative, and so on. A week ago we saw the following concept: directional derivative. Ok, I know the math behind this as well as the way to compute the directional derivative through...
  39. B

    Directional Derivative of Complex Function

    Homework Statement We are given that ##f(z) = u(x,y) + iv(x,y)## and that the function is differentiable at the point ##z_0 = x_0 + iy_0##. We are asked to determine the directional derivative of ##f## 1. along the line ##x=x_0##, and 2. along the line ##y=y_0##. in terms of ##u## and...
  40. J

    Undergrad Maximum value of directional derivative (Duf)?

    Hi guys, I am confused from what I know the max. value of directional derivative at a point is the length of the gradient vector ∇f or grad. f? Why does the answer in my book of a question say that Max. val of Duf = (√3145)/5 when ∇f = (56/5) i- (3/5) j ? Thanks
  41. J

    Directional derivative of f(x,y)=x/(1+y) in direction (i-j) at (0,0)

    Homework Statement rate of change of f(x,y) = \frac{x}{(1+y)} in the direction (i-j) at the point (0,0) Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution ∇f(x,y) = \frac{1}{(y+1)}\hat{i} - \frac{x}{(y+1)^2}\hat{j} D_u = ( f_x, f_y) \bullet ( 1, -1 ) D_u =...
  42. Q

    What does the gradient mean in a given direction?

    I've done the first part, but I'm stuck on the second paragraph of the question. Maybe I'm being stupid, I don't even understand exactly what is meant by, 'the level curve'. I also don't quite understand the whole concept of directional derivative. When it says, 'the gradient in the...
  43. E

    Applied directional derivative problem

    Homework Statement The temperature at a point (x,y,z) is given by T(x,y,z)=200e^[−x^(2)−y^(2)/4−z^(2)/9], where T is measured in degrees celsius and x,y, and z in meters. Find the rate of change of the temperature at the point (0, -1, -1) in the direction toward the point (-2, 1...
  44. A

    Partial derivatives and directional derivative of f(x,y)=tan⁻¹(y²/x)

    \partialThis is my first post, so I apologize for all my mistakes. Thank you for the help, in advance. These are test review questions for Multi Variable Calculus. Homework Statement Let f(x,y) = tan-1(y2 / x) a) Find fx(\sqrt{5}, -2) and fy(\sqrt{5}, -2). b) Find the rate of change...
  45. O

    Undergrad What is the meaning of the directional derivative of a function mean?

    eg. Find the directional derivative of the function phi=xyz^2 at the point (1,2,3). Actually what is the math used for? Let's say phi is the temperature of air(scalar field). ∇phi will be the rate if change of temperature at (1,2,3), why the direction come out. directional derivative of it...
  46. P

    Directional Derivative Equal to Zero

    The problem states: "In what direction is the directional derivative of f(x,y) = \frac{x^2 - y^2}{x^2 + y^2} at (1,1) equal to zero?" I know that ##D_uf = \nabla{f}\cdot{{\bf{u}}}##. I believe the problem simply is asking for me to determine what vector ##{\bf{u}}## will yield zero. Thus...
  47. V

    Undergrad Directional Derivative of Potential energy

    I'm facing some problem in understanding few basic concepts of classical physics. http://www.fotoshack.us/fotos/67357p0020-sel.jpg I cannot understand what does "ij" indicate in "Vij" and how does F=-∇iVij. Why ∇i, why not only ∇. Please help anybody. I'm practically getting frustrated...
  48. A

    Undergrad Deeper understanding of the gradient and directional derivative

    Why does the formula for the gradient - that is (for functions of 2 variables), the partial with respect to x plus the partial with respect to y give the direction of greatest increase? i.e. the direction of maximum at some point on a surface is given by f_xi+f_yj And why, when you times...
  49. A

    Undergrad Directional Derivative and Gradient Problem

    Suppose that an object is moving in a space V, so that its position at time t is given by r=(x,y,z)= (3sin πt, t^2, 1+t) How to find the direction of the vector along which the cat is moving at t = 1? I have no idea where to find out the direction of the vector along which the object is...
  50. S

    Finding direction vector from symmetric line equation

    1. Question: Find the directional derivatives of f(x, y, z) = x2+2xyz−yz2 at (1, 1, 2) in the directions parallel to the line (x−1)/2 = y − 1 = (z−2)/-3. 2. Solution: We have ∇f = (2x + 2yz)i + (2xz - z2)j + (2xy - 2yz)k. Therefore, ∇f(1, 1, 2) = 6i - 2k. The given line is...