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The discussion centers around the limit of the function ##x^2## as ##x## approaches infinity. Participants explore the implications of this limit, including its behavior and the mathematical expressions involved. The conversation includes technical reasoning and mathematical justification.

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  • One participant proposes that ##\lim_{x \to \infty} x^2## leads to an undefined result, suggesting that ##x^2## increases without bound as ##x## increases.
  • Another participant agrees with the conclusion that ##x^2 \rightarrow \infty## as ##x \rightarrow \infty## but critiques the method used to arrive at this conclusion, stating that unnecessary steps were taken.
  • A third participant emphasizes that expressions like ##\frac{1}{\infty}## and ##\frac{1}{0}## should not be used, as they are not valid in standard arithmetic.
  • Additionally, a participant introduces the ε-δ definition of limits, applying it to sequences approaching infinity.

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Participants generally agree that ##x^2## approaches infinity as ##x## approaches infinity, but there is disagreement regarding the validity of certain mathematical steps and expressions used in the reasoning.

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Some participants point out limitations in the use of certain expressions and the need for clarity in mathematical definitions, particularly regarding undefined terms in calculus.

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What is the ##\lim_{x \to \infty} x^2##?

What I get is:

##\lim_{x \to \infty} x^2##
##= \lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{\frac{1}{x^2}}{\frac{1}{x^2}} x^2##
##= \lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{\frac{x^2}{x^2}}{\frac{1}{x^2}}##
##= \lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{1}{\frac{1}{x^2}}##
##= \frac{1}{\frac{1}{\infty}}##
##= \frac{1}{0}##
 
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It looks like you have shown (in a somewhat roundabout way) that the limit is undefined--in other words, that ##x^2## increases without bound as ##x## increases without bound (or, in the more usual sloppy terminology, ##x^2 \rightarrow \infty## as ##x \rightarrow \infty##). Does that seem reasonable to you?
 
askor said:
What is the ##\lim_{x \to \infty} x^2##?

What I get is:

##\lim_{x \to \infty} x^2##
##= \lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{\frac{1}{x^2}}{\frac{1}{x^2}} x^2##
##= \lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{\frac{x^2}{x^2}}{\frac{1}{x^2}}##
##= \lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{1}{\frac{1}{x^2}}##
Going from this step to the next, you are saying that ##\lim_{x \to \infty} x^2 = \infty##. In other words you have used a number of unnecessary steps to arrive at pretty much the same thing as you started with.

Also, you should never write either ##\frac 1 {\infty}## or ##\frac 1 0##. In the first, ##\infty## is not a number that can be used in arithmetic expressions, and in the second, ##\frac 1 0## is undefined.
askor said:
##= \frac{1}{\frac{1}{\infty}}##
##= \frac{1}{0}##
Much more simply, if x grows large without bound, ##x^2## does the same even more rapidly.
 
The common ε-δ-definition of limits turns in the case of unlimited sequences to
##∀ r ∈ ℝ ∃ N ∈ ℕ ∀ n ≥ N : x_n > r## for ##\lim_{n→∞} x_n = ∞## (##x_n < r## for ##\lim_{n→∞} x_n = -∞##)
 

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