Discovering the Half Life of a Radioactive Substance

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The discussion focuses on calculating the half-life of a radioactive substance that decays by 5% over 65 hours, using the formula A = A0e^-kt. Participants clarify that an initial amount is not necessary for the calculation, and they derive the equation 0.95A = A0e^(65k). Additionally, they explore solving exponential equations, particularly 4^x = e^(x + 1), and emphasize the importance of logarithmic manipulation to isolate variables. The final solution for x is determined to be approximately 2.588.

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Homework Statement


Find the half life (in hours) of a radioactive substance that is reduced by 5% in 65 hours.


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So looking around I find that A=A0e^-kt

but I am not really sure how to solve this without having an initial ammount.
 
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You don't need an initial amount. You're given the rate at which it decays, so mathematically:
A=A_{0}e^{0k}
0.95A=A_{0}e^{65k}
 
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never mind figured it out. but if anyone xould help me wih this one it would be greatly appreciated.

Solve for x: 4x=ex + 1

how do you solve for x when its on both sides. How ever I did it the x would cancel.
 
Didn't see your post but thanks for the help. I used Q=Q0(1/2)(t/T) and it worked out for all my half-life problems.
 
Amel said:
never mind figured it out. but if anyone xould help me wih this one it would be greatly appreciated.

Solve for x: 4x=ex + 1

how do you solve for x when its on both sides. How ever I did it the x would cancel.

Take the log of both sides.
 
ok this is what I am doing

log of both sides, i get

(X) log(4) = (x + 1) log(e)

.60X = (X + 1) .43

I don't know how to get both Xs to one side. I have done this with natural log as well and get

X ln (4) = X+1

but how do I move the X

I even tried doing

4^X = exe1

If someone could walk me through this one please, I have been trying so much crap my algebra is getting all messed up.
 
Amel said:
ok this is what I am doing

log of both sides, i get

(X) log(4) = (x + 1) log(e)

.60X = (X + 1) .43

I don't know how to get both Xs to one side. I have done this with natural log as well and get

X ln (4) = X+1

but how do I move the X?

How would you solve

ax = x + 1\; ?

Once you've figured that out, just let a = ln(4).

--Elucidus
 
Start from xln(4)=x+1. Are you familiar with subtraction :D? What could you subtract from the right that would bring all x's to the left?
 
ok so X is 2.588 right?

thats what I was doing the whole time as well but for some reason I would see x-x instead of 1.38X-X lol thank you. I know I was missing something. I hate when I am doing things this late and my mind is just not working right. on the last few I would not be able to do anything and then the next morning when its already to late (due at 5 AM online) the answers would come to me.
 
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Ok now I can't get Solve for X : 4e6x=6e7x

then get 6x ln(4e) = 7x ln(6e)

6x (2.38) = 7x (2.79)

Now how do I get Xs on the same side without canceling them? if I divide then the Xs cancel.
 
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This is now the same as Ax= Bx. How would you solve that? Seriously, if you can't solve equations like that, you need to go back and review basic algebra before you try problems involving exponentials and logarithms.
 
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Amel said:
Ok now I can't get Solve for X : 4e6x=6e7x

then get 6x ln(4e) = 7x ln(6e)

6x (2.38) = 7x (2.79)

Now how do I get Xs on the same side without canceling them? if I divide then the Xs cancel.

Be careful! You are abusing the power rule of logarithms here.

The natural log of 4e6x is not 6x (ln 4e). It is ln(4) + 6x.

--Elucidus
 

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