Exponential Decay Homework: Solving 8 mg After 100 Years

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving exponential decay, specifically related to a radioactive substance with a known half-life. The original poster seeks to determine the initial amount of the substance given that 8 mg remains after 100 years.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to set up the equation using the exponential decay formula but encounters difficulties due to having multiple variables. Some participants suggest recognizing the number of half-lives that have passed as a simpler approach. Others discuss the decay constant and its relationship to the half-life, questioning how to effectively incorporate all given information into their calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various methods to approach the problem, with some suggesting alternative strategies while others emphasize the necessity of using the prescribed equation. There is a recognition of the challenges posed by the professor's grading criteria, which influences the discussion on acceptable methods.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the professor's strict grading policy, which discourages the use of simpler methods that do not align with the expected approach. This context adds a layer of complexity to the participants' discussions about how to solve the problem effectively.

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Homework Statement



A radioactive substance has a half-life of 20 years. If 8 mg of the substance remains after
100 years, find how much of the substance was initially present.


Homework Equations



A=A0ekt

The Attempt at a Solution



I set the equation up so that 8=A0e100k and figured I could solve from there taking the ln but that gives me ln8/A0=100k... I still have two variables so I can't solve. How do I fix this? Can I plug in 20 for k?
 
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Just a thought: an easier way to do this might be to recognize that the object has gone through half-life five times, namely that the object has been halved five times. So if you multiply by 2^5, you'll get the answer you're looking for.
 
Yes, I do realize that, but my prof will give 0 marks for an answer that doesn't use the equation.
 
I assume that k here is the decay constant. Just remember that one of the definitions for k is...

k=\frac{log(2)}{t_{\frac{1}{2}}}

Since you know the half-life, finding the decay constant should be easy.
 
Thanks!
 
No problem. Have a great day!
 
What Char Limit said is excellent: 100= 5(20) so the substance must have been halved 5 times. Work backwards- what is the opposite of "halving"?

As for your method, you have more variables than equations because you did not use all of the information- in particular you made no use of the fact that the half-life is 20 years.

If you start with any amount C, after 20 years, you will have C/2 left:
Ce^{20k}= C/2
so
e^{20k}= \frac{1}{2}
You could solve that for t and then use
Ce^{100k}= 8


But using Ce^{kt} at all is the "hard way". All "exponentials", to any base, are interchangeable.
Ca^{\alpha t}= Ce^{ln(a^{\alpha t}}= Ce^{(\alpha ln(a))}
which is the same as Ce^{kt} with k= \alpha ln(a).

Knowing that the decay is exponential and that the half life is 20 years tells you that you can use
C\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^{t/20}
where dividing t by 20 tells you how many "20 year periods" there are in t years.

But, again, the way Char Limit suggested is simplest and best.
 
howsockgothap said:
Yes, I do realize that, but my prof will give 0 marks for an answer that doesn't use the equation.
If you explain clearly what you are doing I cannot imagine any teacher giving "0 marks" for an easier solution.
 
My prof is a psycho. He's given me a 9% on an assignment before because I didn't use the methods he liked, even if I got the correct answers.
 

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