Find the quantity Q(t) of the substance left?

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to radioactive decay, specifically focusing on determining the quantity of a substance remaining after a certain time given its half-life and initial quantity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to solve the differential equation dQ/dt=kQ, leading to expressions involving natural logarithms and exponential functions. Some participants express confusion regarding the derivation of the decay formula and the interpretation of constants.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the mathematical steps involved in deriving the quantity Q(t). Some participants have provided insights into the natural logarithm and the implications of the half-life, while others have noted language usage in the context of being "stuck." The discussion remains open with no explicit consensus on the approach taken.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the half-life is fixed at 3200 years and that the initial quantity is 20 g. There is also a mention of the importance of correctly interpreting the sign of the decay constant k in relation to the behavior of the function Q(t).

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Homework Statement


The half-life of a radioactive substance is 3200 years. Find the quantity Q(t) of the substance left at time t>0 if Q(0)=20 g.

Homework Equations


dQ/dt=kQ

The Attempt at a Solution


dQ/dt=kQ
dQ/Q=k dt
ln abs(Q)=kt+C
Q=Ce^(kt)
C=20
Q=20e^(kt)
20e^(3200k)=10
e^(3200k)=1/2
Now I'm stucked. The answer is Q=20e^(-(t*ln2)/3200) g.
 
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Math10 said:

Homework Statement


The half-life of a radioactive substance is 3200 years. Find the quantity Q(t) of the substance left at time t>0 if Q(0)=20 g.

Homework Equations


dQ/dt=kQ

The Attempt at a Solution


dQ/dt=kQ
dQ/Q=k dt
ln abs(Q)=kt+C
Since the quantity Q can't be negative, there's no need for absolute values.
Math10 said:
Q=Ce^(kt)
C=20
Q=20e^(kt)
20e^(3200k)=10
e^(3200k)=1/2
Take the natural log of both sides to solve for k.
Math10 said:
Now I'm stucked. The answer is Q=20e^(-(t*ln2)/3200) g.
There is no such word in English as "stucked." You can say that you're stuck.
 
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Math10 said:

Homework Statement


The half-life of a radioactive substance is 3200 years. Find the quantity Q(t) of the substance left at time t>0 if Q(0)=20 g.

Homework Equations


dQ/dt=kQ

The Attempt at a Solution


dQ/dt=kQ
dQ/Q=k dt
ln abs(Q)=kt+C
Q=Ce^(kt)
C=20
Q=20e^(kt)
20e^(3200k)=10
e^(3200k)=1/2
Now I'm stucked. The answer is Q=20e^(-(t*ln2)/3200) g.

It is a good idea to get in the habit of doing the following:
(1) Write ## Q = e^{-kt}## if ##Q = Q(t)## is decreasing.
(2) Write ##Q = e^{kt}## if ##Q = Q(t)## is increasing.
By doing that, we always have ##k > 0##. This is convenient because we usually want to know the magnitude of ##k## (for example, it might be tabulated in a handbook), and then knowing whether or not you should use ##+k## or ##-k## in the exponent is up to the user. (Of course, your method is OK too, but it will give a negative value of ##k##.) This sounds like a minor point, but standard usage in most fields adheres to (1) or (2).
 

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