Discovering the Sun's Mass: Calculating Without AU Distance | Wikipedia Method

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mass of the Sun and determining the distance from the Earth to the Sun without using astronomical units (AU). Participants explore various methods and concepts related to gravitational law and measurements in astrophysics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the need for the Sun's mass in calculations and question how to derive it without relying on AU. There are mentions of using gravitational law and other methods to measure the distance to the Sun, as well as inquiries about the original poster's background and the material studied.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the original poster's question and exploring different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of ratios and lunar distance, but no consensus has been reached on a specific method.

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The original poster is a first-year university student studying physics as part of an engineering program, with prior exposure to Newton's gravitational law but lacking specific methods for calculating the Sun's mass or distance without AU.

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1/ when serching for mesurement Earth-Sun distance, I got this
in the sechon answer, to use this method, we need mass of the Sun but when I searched for Sun' mass http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_mass

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r=GMT^2/(4(πr)^2)

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there are the other ways to caculate Sun mass without using AU
 
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What is your question exactly?
 
The other ways used to caculate the mass of the sun do not use AU.
My homework is how to determine to distance to Sun from Earth, using gavitionval law is one of those ways to measure it. However, using gravitational law requires Sun's Mass and I don't know how to caculate the mass of the Sun without using AU.
 
What is the course you are studying? What have you studied so far?
 
Now I'm first year in university so we learn physics as compulsory subject though the main subject is engineering. It was only two month but in height school, I learned Newton's gravitational law but with some contant like mass of the sun and astronomical unit we weren't taught how to determine/caculate it although we knew its value.
 
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What had you you been studying when you get the homework assigned to you?
 
That is a lot of material. I am not really sure what you are supposed to use as a given.

On the very first pages you are given the ratio of solar to lunar distance from the Earth. You could use that one. Then you will need to find the lunar distance. It could be derived from the gravity exerted on the Moon by the Earth.
 

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