Discrepancy between my work and book's [Static Fluid/Pressure]

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to static fluid pressure, specifically addressing discrepancies between the original poster's calculations and those presented in a textbook example. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the height reference point used in the problem.

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  • Participants explore the definition of variables in the pressure equation P = ρgh, questioning the reference height for depth measurements. They discuss the implications of different origin points for integration and how these affect the results.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the setup of the problem, with some providing guidance on how to redefine the coordinate system to better align with the problem's requirements. There is recognition of the original poster's confusion and a collaborative effort to address it.

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The original poster notes a lack of explicit information in the problem statement regarding height references, which contributes to their confusion. The discussion includes considerations of how to interpret the problem setup based on the provided diagrams.

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The book (Example 13-3):
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My attempt:
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My confusion is in why they are starting their height at 1.0 meters above the surface of the water and then getting a y_2 value of 2.0 meters. That's the discrepancy that's giving me a different value than the book's. It never says in the question to do that, and I'm baffled as to how I am supposed to know.

Thanks in advance for the help.
 
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Hello.

In P = ρgh, h denotes the depth below the surface of the water. h is also your integration variable. What is the value of h at the top of the window? At the bottom of the window?

[EDIT: Note that the window is submerged below the surface of the water.]
 
h = 0.0 meters at the top and h = 1.0 meters at the bottom of the window.
 
The widow is embedded in the side of the aquarium with the top of the window 1.0 m below the surface of the water.
 
Ah, I see. I wish they would explicitly state these things in the question as it seems I am unable to derive them from the pictures, haha. Well, they don't write the books for me!

Thanks TSny! I will approach this problem again. Do you think I can keep my origin at the top of the window and change my bounds to -1m to +1m? It seems this will still give me an incorrect value and I may have to change my origin to the top of the water tank.
 
Suppose you introduce a y-axis going vertically downward. You can certainly choose the origin of y to be at the top of the window. Then you would need to think about how to express the depth h in terms of y.

[EDIT: You could then integrate from y = 0 to y = 1.]
 
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Alright, it seems you have nailed the source of confusion on the head. I will have to redraw my diagram and rewrite my integral thinking about the relation of h and y.

edit: I was way overthinking this. I reintegrated with new bounds and it comes out perfectly. Thanks a bunch, TSny!
 
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