Calculating Pump Power for Steady Water Flow: Work-Energy Theorem Approach

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The problem involves calculating the power of a pump that is moving water steadily out of a flooded basement through a hose. The scenario includes considerations of water flow velocity, hose dimensions, and the height the water must be lifted.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to analyze the work done on water at different heights in the hose and questions the treatment of water that is not yet in the hose compared to water already in it. They propose an integral approach to model the work done on the water.
  • Participants raise questions about the work required to lift a mass and the acceleration of water, prompting further exploration of mass flow rates and energy considerations.
  • Some participants suggest focusing on the steady state of water flow and the energy required per parcel of water, while questioning the assumptions about the initial and final states of the hose.

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There are assumptions regarding the initial conditions of the hose and the treatment of water parcels at different heights. The discussion also reflects on the implications of steady versus transient states in the flow of water.

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Homework Statement



Water is pumped steadily out of a flooded basement at
5.0 m/s through a hose of radius 1.0 cm, passing through a window
3.0 m above the waterline.What is the pump’s power?

Homework Equations



Volume and mass flow rates are constant

R_v = Av; \quad M_v = \rho A v

Work-energy Theorem

W = \Delta E = \Delta U + \Delta K

The Attempt at a Solution



I've seen one solution leading up to the same answer as in the back of the book, 66 Watts. It goes by imagining a small chunk of water of mass Δm and the work done on it by the pump of a time Δt. Several attempts at that method can be found here: https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/power-of-a-pump.551946/

However, this seems odd to me. I would think that the water in the hose from the start should be handled differently from the water in the basement that is not (yet) in the hose. The water at the very top of the hose doesn't need to go anywhere, and the water only a little bit below it only needs to go a small distance and then it vanishes. The water at the bottom of the hose needs to be lifted a distance of 3m. The water not yet in the hose just sits there until space is made for it and then only makes it up the hose a certain distance.

My thought about this was to think of, again, a small chunk of water and the work done on it, but to split the two cases where it's in the hose and where it isn't yet. To model the work done on the water I reason that, in time Δt at a height h from the water level, the work done on the water is \rho \pi r^2 g(3-h)\Delta h as this accounts for the linear variation of the amount of height that the water in the hose has to travel. This would then lead to the integral \int_0^3 \rho \pi (0.01^2) g (3-h)dh

Then you'd have to do something similar for the water that began not in the hose and add the two calculations of work together.

Is this a good argument?
 
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How much work does it take to raise a mass of 1 kg a vertical distance of 3 meters?

How much work does it take to accelerate a mass of 1 kg from a velocity of 0 m/s to a velocity of 5 m/s?

What is the mass flow rate through the hose?
 
The work to raise 1 kg a vertical distance of 3 m is 9.8*3 N, but my point is that not every quantity of water must be raised 3 m, unless we assume the hose begins empty and ends empty and runs for unit time I suppose.

I may not be appreciating what you're getting at.
 
Addem said:
The work to raise 1 kg a vertical distance of 3 m is 9.8*3 N, but my point is that not every quantity of water must be raised 3 m, unless we assume the hose begins empty and ends empty and runs for unit time I suppose.

I may not be appreciating what you're getting at.
You can ignore the startup and shutdown entirely. Instead, concentrate on the steady state. In this steady state there are many small parcels of water in various stages of their journey simultaneously. We can focus on any parcel. It will be representative of all of the rest.

How much energy does it take per parcel? How many parcels pass a particular point every second?

You have calculated the work to raise 1 kg of water 3 meters as 9.8*3 N. You should re-check the units for that result. Then you can proceed with the rest of the calculation.
 

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