Discrete Math: Proving something is logically equivalent

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The discussion revolves around proving that the logical expressions (p ∧ q) → r and (p → r) ∧ (q → r) are not logically equivalent. Participants are exploring the implications of these expressions within the context of discrete mathematics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to manipulate the expressions to demonstrate equivalence but expresses confusion about the outcome. Some participants suggest testing specific truth values for p, q, and r to find a counterexample.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing specific truth assignments to test the equivalence. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the logical transformations and the validity of the original poster's reasoning.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on understanding the logical equivalence rather than simply arriving at an answer. The original poster expresses a desire to learn the reasoning process involved in the proof.

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Homework Statement


Show that (p ∧ q) → r and (p → r) ∧ (q → r) are not
logically equivalent.


Homework Equations


a → b = \nega v b



The Attempt at a Solution


I'm sorry. I'm completely stumped on how to go about this problem. I'm not asking for the solution since I want to know how to do this instead of just getting the answer. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
Here is what I had just so no one thinks I didn't try.

(p ∧ q) → r
=> \neg ( p \wedge q ) \vee r
=> (\negp \wedge \negq ) \vee r
=> (switched it around) r \vee (\negp \wedge \negq )
=> (distributed) (r \vee \negp ) \wedge ( r v \neg q)
=> (\negp v r ) \wedge (\negq v r )
=> (p -> r ) \wedge (q -> r)

It said disprove but somehow I'm getting that they are L.E.
 
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If you want to prove they are not equivalent then just figure out how you can assign true and false values to p, q and r so that the two sides give you different values.
 
Dick said:
If you want to prove they are not equivalent then just figure out how you can assign true and false values to p, q and r so that the two sides give you different values.

That makes sense. Here is what I got, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Let
p = true
q = false
r = false
then (p ∧ q) → r is true.
and (p → r) ∧ (q → r) is false.
Hence it's not L.E.

Any mistakes?
 
sjung915 said:
That makes sense. Here is what I got, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Let
p = true
q = false
r = false
then (p ∧ q) → r is true.
and (p → r) ∧ (q → r) is false.
Hence it's not L.E.

Any mistakes?

Looks ok to me. true → false is false. false → false is true.
 
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As far as the original logic goes...

sjung915 said:
=> \neg ( p \wedge q ) \vee r
=> (\negp \wedge \negq ) \vee r

Your problem is here.
not (p and q) = (not p OR not q)
 

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