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The discussion revolves around a quadratic equation, specifically the expression x^2 - 8x - 29 and its relation to the form (x+a)^2 + b, where a and b are constants. Participants are exploring the implications of the discriminant and the roots of the equation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss completing the square to find constants a and b, with some expressing uncertainty about how to derive the roots in the specified form. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of "finding the roots" and the conditions for the discriminant.

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Some participants have provided insights into the completion of the square and the nature of the roots, while others are still seeking clarification on the terminology and the next steps in the problem-solving process. There is a mix of attempts to verify calculations and explore different interpretations of the question.

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Participants note the importance of the equals sign format and express confusion about the terminology used in the problem, particularly regarding the roots of the equation.

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[SOLVED] Discriminant Related Question

Question

[tex]x^2 - 8x - 29 = (x+a)^2 +b[/tex], where a and b are constant.

NOTE: The equals sign should be an always equals sign, so like three lines under each other :bugeye:

(a) Find the value of a and b

(b)Hence, or otherwise show the roots of [tex]x^2 - 8x - 29 = 0[/tex] are [tex]c =+/- d\sqrt5[/tex] where c and d are integers.

Attempt

(a)[tex]x^2 - 8x - 29 = (x+a)^2 +b[/tex]

[tex](x-4)^2 - 16 - 29 = (x+a)^2 +b[/tex]

a = -4
b = -45

(b) Erm...not sure, as it says roots I will assume it means two roots so [tex]b^2 - 4ac > 0[/tex]

64 + 116 > 0, yes this is all alright but I am not sure how to get it in the form [tex]c =+/- d\sqrt5[/tex]

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_Mayday_ said:
NOTE: The equals sign should be an always equals sign, so like three lines under each other :bugeye:

Oh that's done with \equiv

[tex]\equiv[/tex]
 
DavidWhitbeck said:
Oh that's done with \equiv

[tex]\equiv[/tex]

Cheers!

Anyone got any ideas on how to solve the other question? :smile:
 
What are the roots of the equation x2- 8x- 29= 0? Since you have already "completed the square" that should be easy!
 
By find the roots do they just mean find the possible values for x? The question is what has got me, what do they mean by find the roots? I know I should know this but, I think I have already done the 'hard' bit.
 
[tex](x-4)^2 = 45[/tex]

[tex]\sqrt{45} = +/- 3\sqrt5[/tex]
 
[tex]x - 4 = +\- 3\sqrt5[/tex]

[tex]x = 4 +/- 3\sqrt5[/tex]
 
I think that is correct, thank you!
 

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