Displacement and electric field

In summary: You have successfully derived the expression for dD in terms of dV, dT, and dE, using the given relation between D and ε. Great job!In summary, we can express dD in terms of dV, dT, and dE as dD = E[(∂ε/∂V)dV + (∂ε/∂T)dT] + εdE. This is derived from the relationship D=εE, where the dielectric constant ε depends on both volume and temperature.
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Homework Statement



displacement and electric field related by D=εE where dielectric constant depends on volume and temperature. Express dD in terms of dV, dT and dE

(this is just a part of a question but want to make sure I have it right else the rest of the 'showing' and proofs are never going to work out)


The Attempt at a Solution



so taking D=εE

Then dD = εdV (because it is volume dependent) + εdT (temperature dependent)

what happens to the E, is it Edε + edE as well as the above
although it can't be dε because it says express in terms of dT dV and dE, no dε mentioned?

is any of that on the right lines?

any help appreciated
 
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D=εE where dielectric constant depends on volume and temperature.
We can write that predicate statement as ε = ε(V, T).
Based on that, you need to find an expression for dε in terms of dV and dT.
What would be the change in ε if T stays constant and V increases by dV?
 
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chemphys1 said:

... dielectric constant depends on volume and temperature. although it can't be dε because it says express in terms of dT dV and dE, no dε mentioned?

/QUOTE]

The above is self-contradicory.

How can there be no dε when it says ε varies with T and V?
 
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haruspex said:
We can write that predicate statement as ε = ε(V, T).
Based on that, you need to find an expression for dε in terms of dV and dT.
What would be the change in ε if T stays constant and V increases by dV?

as in like this?

dε = (∂ε/∂V)dV + (∂ε/∂T)dT

where does dD =
come into this?
 
  • #5
rude man said:
chemphys1 said:

... dielectric constant depends on volume and temperature. although it can't be dε because it says express in terms of dT dV and dE, no dε mentioned?

/QUOTE]

The above is self-contradicory.

How can there be no dε when it says ε varies with T and V?


true
I'm not very good at interpreting what maths questions mean/are saying :confused:
 
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come up with this

dD = E∂ε + εdE

where

dε = (∂ε/∂V)dV + (∂ε/∂T)dT

overall

dD = E [(∂ε/∂V)dV + (∂ε/∂T)dT] + εdE

is that what I should be getting?
 
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chemphys1 said:
come up with this

dD = Edε + εdE

where

dε = (∂ε/∂V)dV + (∂ε/∂T)dT

overall

dD = E [(∂ε/∂V)dV + (∂ε/∂T)dT] + εdE

is that what I should be getting?

Excellent!
 

1. What is displacement in relation to electric field?

Displacement is a measure of the distance and direction of a point from a reference point. In the context of electric fields, displacement refers to the distance and direction from a point in space to the source of the electric field, which is typically a charged object.

2. How is displacement related to electric potential?

Displacement and electric potential are closely related, as electric potential is a measure of the electric potential energy per unit charge at a given point in an electric field. Displacement is used to calculate the electric potential at a specific point by determining the distance and direction from the reference point to the source of the electric field.

3. What is the formula for calculating displacement in an electric field?

The formula for calculating displacement in an electric field is D = qE, where D is the displacement, q is the charge of the object, and E is the strength of the electric field. This formula assumes that the electric field is uniform and the charge is a point charge.

4. How does displacement affect the strength of an electric field?

Displacement does not directly affect the strength of an electric field. The strength of an electric field is determined by the charge of the object creating the field and the distance from the object. However, displacement can be used to calculate the strength of the electric field at a specific point.

5. What is the difference between displacement and distance in an electric field?

Displacement and distance are related but not the same in an electric field. Displacement refers to the distance and direction from a reference point to a point in an electric field. Distance, on the other hand, refers to the total length of the path traveled by an object in the electric field.

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