How Does Dissolved Air Affect the Compressibility of Water?

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The discussion centers on the nature of dissolved air in water, specifically focusing on how it exists at a molecular level and its potential effects on the compressibility of water. Participants explore the composition of air, the definition of dissolved gases, and seek literature and experimental methods to observe these phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that air is a mixture of gases and does not exist as a single molecule, with each gas being capable of dissolving in water.
  • There is a discussion about the definition of "dissolved," with some clarifying that it refers to gases being evenly mixed rather than in bubble form.
  • Participants express interest in how gases like oxygen exist in water and seek literature on the microstructural arrangement of oxygen and water molecules.
  • Questions arise regarding the types of equipment that could be used to observe the microstructure of air and water mixtures.
  • Some participants mention that while molecules cannot be seen directly, their presence can be inferred through experimental observations, such as the release of gas from carbonated beverages.
  • There is a request for specific literature references related to the compressibility of water with dissolved gases.

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Participants generally agree on the nature of dissolved gases but express differing views on the specifics of molecular arrangements and the availability of literature on the compressibility of water with dissolved air. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact micro-level interactions and the methods to observe them.

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Limitations include a lack of consensus on the specific methods for observing molecular arrangements and the absence of clear literature references regarding the compressibility of water with dissolved gases.

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Air can be dissolved in water. I read some information that the dissolved air exists in the form of molecule, for example, oxygen can be dissolved in the water, and the fish can get dissolved oxygen from the water, which is said to be in the form of molecule, but I can not find related publication or pictures about the existence form of dissolved air or oxygen in the water.

Somebody can provide any information or articles about this topic?

i need to know whether the dissolved air affects the compressibility of the water, as air-bubbles definitely do, but I don't know about dissolved air.

Thanks all guys.
 
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Air is a mixture of different gases (nitrogen, oxygen, carbon dioxide, and some trace gases) and as such does not exist as a single molecule. Each of the constituent gases in air can be dissolved in water.

Start with this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solution

You can use google to find out more information on gases dissolved in water.
 
SteamKing said:
Air is a mixture of different gases (nitrogen, oxygen, carbon dioxide, and some trace gases) and as such does not exist as a single molecule. Each of the constituent gases in air can be dissolved in water.

Start with this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solution

You can use google to find out more information on gases dissolved in water.

Thanks for your reply.

My interests right now is that how does air or gas, eg, exygen, exist in the water?
 
"Dissolved" means not in bubbles, but evenly mixed.
 
russ_watters said:
"Dissolved" means not in bubbles, but evenly mixed.

so what kind of form if not bubble?
 
chaney said:
so what kind of form if not bubble?
Scattered single molecules.
 
NascentOxygen said:
Scattered single molecules.

is there relative literature and what kind of equipment can we use to observe the microstructure of air and water mixture?
 
chaney said:
is there relative literature
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solution
and what kind of equipment can we use to observe the microstructure of air and water mixture?
We can't see molecules, but we can detect them via experiments. For example, you can open a bottle of a sweet, refreshing carbonated beverage.
 
russ_watters said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solution

We can't see molecules, but we can detect them via experiments. For example, you can open a bottle of a sweet, refreshing carbonated beverage.

Is there any method to know how are, for example, oxygen and water moleculars bounded or arranged in the micro level? Or any relative literature references? Thanks a lot!
 
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I really don't see how what you are asking differs from what has already been covered. Could you be more specific/detailed please.
 
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russ_watters said:
I really don't see how what you are asking differs from what has already been covered. Could you be more specific/detailed please.

what I mean is how do oxygen molecular and water molecular arrange in the micro level? Is there any device available for us to observe the arrangement of the two kinds of moleculars? Any publications described the compressibility of the water with dissolved gas or air? Thanks a lot!
 

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