Distance unknown, have acceleration time and another distance

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The problem involves a rock being thrown upward past a window, with specific parameters given: the time taken to pass the window and the height of the window. Participants are exploring how to calculate the height above the window that the rock would reach, using kinematic equations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the initial velocity of the rock and how it relates to the time taken to pass the window. There are attempts to apply kinematic equations to find the height above the window.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's calculations and questioning the assumptions made regarding the direction of acceleration. Some have suggested re-evaluating the signs used in the equations, while others are exploring the implications of reaching maximum height.

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There is a focus on the correct application of kinematic equations, particularly regarding the signs of velocity and acceleration. Participants are also reminded that the original question is about the height above the window, not the initial velocity itself.

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Homework Statement



A rock is thrown up past a window. The rock requires 0.20 s to completely pass by the 1.4 m window calculate the height above the window the rock would travel.

Homework Equations



D=vf(t) -1/2at^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I have tried using the acceleration as 9.81 m/s and 7 m/s and the vf as i got that from 1.4/0.20. It does not give me the right answer though. any help would be great!
 
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What you are given is time for completing 1.4m is 0.2s, can you find the initial velocity of stone using this data? :smile:
 
So i found that the initial velocity is 6.019 m/s now how does that lead me to how far above the window the rock will travel?
 
I don't get my answer to be 6.019m/s. :redface:

Show me the steps you followed. :smile:
 
Pranav-Arora said:
I don't get my answer to be 6.019m/s. :redface:

Show me the steps you followed. :smile:

1.4m=vi(.20)+1/2(9.81)(0.20)^2
1.4=vi(0.20)+.1962
1.2038=vi(0.20)
vi=6.019m/s
 
vicsic said:
1.4m=vi(.20)+1/2(9.81)(0.20)^2
1.4=vi(0.20)+.1962
1.2038=vi(0.20)
vi=6.019m/s

Ah...there you go wrong.
The direction of acceleration which is g in our case is opposite to the initial velocity.
Initial velocity is in upward direction and acceleration is in downward direction. So one has to be negative. That means you didn't take care of signs. If you choose upward as positive then downward direction has to be negative.

Try again & post the steps here. :smile:
 
Pranav-Arora said:
Ah...there you go wrong.
The direction of acceleration which is g in our case is opposite to the initial velocity.
Initial velocity is in upward direction and acceleration is in downward direction. So one has to be negative. That means you didn't take care of signs. If you choose upward as positive then downward direction has to be negative.

Try again & post the steps here. :smile:

Got the answer!

1.4m=vi(0.20)+1/2(-9.81)(0.20)^2
1.4m=vi(0.20)-0.1962
1.5962=vi0.20
vi=7.981 m/s

then plugging it back in

d=vi(t)+1/2at^2
d=7.981(0.20)+1/2(9.81)(0.20)^2
d=1.7924
d=1.8m

thanks for the help :)
 
vicsic said:
Got the answer!

1.4m=vi(0.20)+1/2(-9.81)(0.20)^2
1.4m=vi(0.20)-0.1962
1.5962=vi0.20
vi=7.981 m/s

then plugging it back in

d=vi(t)+1/2at^2
d=7.981(0.20)+1/2(9.81)(0.20)^2
d=1.7924
d=1.8m

thanks for the help :)

You're still incorrect. :)

When you substituted the value of vi back into the same equation, you did a sign mistake again. :redface:

Moreover, you aren't asked the initial velocity in the question. :smile:
You are asked how high it would go above the window.
For that you need to find the maximum height the stone can achieve.
(Hint: Velocity at maximum height is 0m/s).

Try again and post the steps here. :)
 

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