Diverging Lens: Find Object Given Real Image & Size

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The discussion centers on the properties of a diverging lens, specifically regarding the formation of a real image that is larger than the object. It is clarified that a diverging lens typically produces virtual images that are upright and reduced in size, leading to confusion about the scenario presented. The focal length of the diverging lens is given as -20 cm, and the image is described as real and 150% the size of the object. Participants note that a real image can be formed by a diverging lens only when a converging beam from another lens is involved. This highlights the unique conditions under which a diverging lens can create a real image, contrary to common expectations.
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Homework Statement


The focal length of a diverging lens is -20 cm. Locate the object, given that the image is real, erect, and 150% of the size of the object.

Homework Equations


(1/f)=(1/do)+(1/di)
M=-(di/do)

The Attempt at a Solution


i'm not really sure how a diverging lens forms a real image (i thought they could only from virtual since most of the images are on the same side) and a size that is larger than the original object. At first, I thought that the image would be inverted (negative magnification) since a virtual image would have a positive magnification (image is upright)...
 
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For a diverging lens revealed the image of the object is virtual, upright, reduced in size and located on the same side of the lens as the object.

You can form a real image from a diverging lens - but only by feeding it a converging beam from another lens (eg in a retrofocus wide angle camera lens)
 
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