DIY Vacuum Sealer: Building for Maximum Efficiency on a Budget

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around building a DIY vacuum sealer with a focus on achieving maximum efficiency on a budget. Participants explore materials, design considerations, and the mechanics of creating an effective vacuum sealing system, including the potential use of vacuum chambers and sealing methods.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the cheapest material suitable for constructing a vacuum chamber that can achieve a 99.5% vacuum.
  • Another participant suggests that a vacuum chamber may not be necessary and that a pump could suffice for basic vacuum sealing.
  • A later reply emphasizes that while a pump can work for basic vacuum sealing, it may not be effective for sealing liquids or compressing fruits.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety of DIY vacuum chambers, with a recommendation to use a vacuum pump and a Bell jar for safety.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about calculating the pressure applied to the walls of a vacuum chamber and mentions access to welding supplies for construction.
  • Another participant notes that the pressure will range from zero to about 14.7 psi, providing a rough estimate for calculations.
  • A suggestion is made to consider using a spherical shell made of polycarbonate for its resistance to buckling under pressure, contingent on the thickness being appropriate for the pressure differential.
  • Discussion includes a description of a vacuum sealing process involving a chamber, sealing device, and the sequence of evacuating the chamber and sealing the bag.
  • One participant questions the necessity of a rectangular vacuum chamber and requests clarification on the proposed vacuum sealing process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of a vacuum chamber versus using a pump alone, and there is no consensus on the best materials or designs for constructing a DIY vacuum sealer. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing ideas presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention safety concerns and technical challenges related to constructing a vacuum chamber, including the need for calculations regarding pressure and material strength. There are also references to specific design choices that may depend on the intended use of the vacuum sealer.

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Hey all,

I'm a bit of a food geek and a DIY nut and I'm looking to build my own vacuum sealer for as cheap as possible. My question to you guys, is what is the cheapest material I can use that will still withstand the pressure as well as maintain the airtight seal needed? I am looking to get a 99.5% vacuum in the chamber itself, and I would like it to be square so I can fit my sealing device in there. Thanks for all your help!
 
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Doodman said:
Hey all,

I'm a bit of a food geek and a DIY nut and I'm looking to build my own vacuum sealer for as cheap as possible. My question to you guys, is what is the cheapest material I can use that will still withstand the pressure as well as maintain the airtight seal needed? I am looking to get a 99.5% vacuum in the chamber itself, and I would like it to be square so I can fit my sealing device in there. Thanks for all your help!
Welcome to the PF.

AFAIK, you don't need a vacuum chamber to make a vacuum sealer. Just use a pump to pump the air out of the sealing bag...

http://www.pickyourown.org/productpics/foodsaverV2460.jpg
foodsaverV2460.jpg
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF.

AFAIK, you don't need a vacuum chamber to make a vacuum sealer. Just use a pump to pump the air out of the sealing bag...

http://www.pickyourown.org/productpics/foodsaverV2460.jpg
foodsaverV2460.jpg
Sorry, should have been a bit more specific in the original post. That works for basic 'vaccing' but doesn't allow you to put liquids in the bags, nor is it strong enough to do things like compressed fruit.

It's a bit of overkill, but I like projects
 
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Doodman said:
That works for basic 'vaccing' but doesn't allow you to put liquids in the bags, nor is it strong enough to do things like compressed fruit.

It's a bit of overkill, but I like projects
The problem with DIY vacuum chambers is that they can be pretty dangerous. I've worked with setups like the one below, and they are relatively safe. I'd recommend just buying a vacuum pump and Bell jar to keep your setup safe.

http://physics.sierracollege.edu/DemoRoom/Pictures/Demonstrations/4e20_40.jpg
4e20_40.jpg
 
Unfortunately, there is no way to seal a bag in a rig like that. I understand there are risks, but I have access to welding supplies or I can purchase a pre-built acrylic box if I need to, but I suck at math, I have no way to calculate how much pressure will be applied to the walls while under vacuum, nor what type of material can withstand said pressure. I also want a reason to play around with a raspberry pi, and arduino with sensors to control things
 
Doodman said:
I have no way to calculate how much pressure will be applied to the walls while under vacuum,

Well you know it's going to be somewhere between zero and about 14.7 psi.
 
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Because of their inherent resistance to buckling under external pressure using a spherical shell made up of two mating hemispheres made of a non-shattering material such as polycarbonate is also an option (assuming you want to be able to view what is happening inside the vessel) but the shell thickness still has to be selected based upon the pressure differential.
 
The product in a bag (is held between two soft foam blocks) in a vacuum chamber with the sealing device around the top of the bag. The chamber is evacuated. The bag seal is welded, then the air pressure restored to the chamber.

I see no reason why you must have a rectangular vacuum chamber.

Maybe you should explain better how your vacuum sealing process will work.
 

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