Do Emission and Absorption Spectra Match? A Non-Physics Minded Tourist's Guide

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between emission and absorption spectra, particularly in the context of stellar atmospheres. Participants explore how these spectra interact and the conditions under which they may or may not match, with a focus on astronomical phenomena such as P-Cygni profiles and the Sun's chromosphere.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether emission and absorption spectra match and why hot stellar atmospheres do not exhibit both, suggesting a lack of understanding of the underlying physics.
  • Another participant explains that core emission and absorption are close to blackbody radiation, indicating that emission equals absorption, but notes that the directional nature of light from the star core and isotropic emission from the atmosphere leads to attenuation of certain frequencies.
  • A participant acknowledges the previous explanation as sensible, indicating a positive reception to the technical clarification.
  • Discussion includes the observation of P-Cygni line profiles, where both emission and absorption lines of the same species are present at different wavelengths due to the dynamics of an expanding stellar atmosphere, with Doppler shifts causing the observed line shifts.
  • Another participant describes the chromosphere of the Sun, detailing how it can produce both absorption and emission features, particularly during flare activity, and discusses the effects of opacity and scattering near line center.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and detail regarding the interaction of emission and absorption spectra. While some explanations are accepted, there is no consensus on all aspects of the topic, particularly regarding the implications of the chromosphere and P-Cygni profiles.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve complex phenomena that depend on specific conditions, such as the motion of material within stellar atmospheres and the effects of temperature and density in the chromosphere. The nuances of these interactions are not fully resolved.

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Basic stuff. Do emission and absorption spectra match? If so, why wouldn't hot stellar atmospheres exhibit both, cancelling? I'm a tourist...not physics minded..
 
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Core emission/absorption is close to blackbody, so emission = absorption. For the stellar atmosphere, however, you get the usual result for a gas. The light coming from the star core is going approximately in one direction, while emission from the atmosphere will be isotropic, so from an external point of view, some frequencies in the spectrum will be attenuated.
 
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That makes a lot of sense. Thank you.
 
There are also cases in which both an emission line and an absorption line of the same species are observed in the spectrum at slightly different wavelengths. These are known as P-Cygni line profiles. They are found in stars with an expanding atmosphere. The emission component is always to the red, the absorption component always to the blue. The line shifts result from Doppler shifts associated with the motion of the material within the atmosphere.

For an example and explanation, see: P-Cygni line profile
 
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Another example of emission and absorption in the same line is a consequence of hot surface layers called a chromosphere. The Sun's chromosphere is generally weak, but it gets stronger (i.e., thicker) during flare activity. In those regions where the chromosphere gets thick and hot, it can produce lines in which, far from line center you see the blackbody continuum of the star, then as you get into the line it appears darker because you are seeing the attenuation effect mentioned above, but closer still to line center you see an augmentation effect due to the hot chromosphere. (Very close to line center, you see a "central reversal", which is a scattering effect where high opacity near line center just scatters light back downward, which gets redistributed to frequencies farther from line center that escape more easily.) An example of this is the "jet bright core" profile from:
https://www.researchgate.net/profil...omospheric-anemone-jets-bright-core-taken.png
I presume the asymmetry is from blueward absorption, a mass-motion effect akin to the "P Cygni" effect above (hence the "jet" here).
 

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