Do Extra-Curriculars and Internships matter for grad school?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relevance of extracurricular activities and internships for graduate school applications in physics and related fields. Participants explore whether these experiences impact admission decisions compared to academic performance and research experience.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that graduate admission guidelines do not emphasize extracurricular activities as undergrad applications do, questioning their importance.
  • Another participant argues that only extracurricular science research or internships at research labs may be beneficial for graduate applications.
  • Some participants suggest that most extracurricular activities may not significantly affect applicant rankings, but exceptions exist, such as involvement in competitive engineering teams.
  • It is mentioned that extracurricular activities can contribute to personal well-being, which in turn may enhance academic performance.
  • Participants highlight that extracurriculars can be valuable for job prospects post-graduation, providing skills and experiences relevant to employers.
  • One participant points out that certain prestigious fellowships may consider leadership qualities demonstrated through extracurriculars, potentially influencing graduate school choices.
  • Concerns are raised that internships not directly related to research may not be advantageous for graduate school applications, emphasizing the competitiveness of relevant programs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of extracurricular activities and internships for graduate school applications, with no consensus reached on their overall importance.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the impact of extracurriculars and internships may vary based on individual circumstances and the specific programs to which they are applying.

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I just looked Physics graduate admission application guidelines on websites of various US and other International universities. There wasn't any mention of Extracurricular activities at all, unlike undergrad applications which use them as a crucial factor for admission decisions. Do they matter at all? Or should I just focus on grades and research during my undergraduate studies?

Secondly, what about internships? I have looked up a lot of good organizations in my country and abroad where I think doing internships will prove to be very educational and constructive including the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission and the Perimeter Institute in Canada and I plan to apply there. Will that help at all in my graduate application?
 
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No. Unless you mean extracurricular science research with a professor or an internship at a research lab.
 
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Most extra-curricular activities won't make much of a difference in terms of your ranking within your pool of applicants. But there are some exceptions. An example of an exception might be experience with a competitive engineering team. Having a statement in a reference letter that's supported by specific, practical examples of innovative thinking and industriousness can affect where a student is ranked.

Also, it's important to remember that admission to graduate school is a single milestone in your life. Extra-curricular activities may not give you a relevant bullet on your CV. But if they enable you to relax more during your down time, sleep better, or focus more when you are studying, then obviously those will help you to bolster those measurable quantities that do count towards admission.

Along those lines too, extra-curricular activities are often what help students get jobs when they eventually leave academia. Taking part in clubs, volunteering, mentoring... these all can build skills that are extremely important to employers. And they give you tangible experience to draw on during job interviews.
 
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Choppy said:
Most extra-curricular activities won't make much of a difference in terms of your ranking within your pool of applicants. But there are some exceptions. An example of an exception might be experience with a competitive engineering team. Having a statement in a reference letter that's supported by specific, practical examples of innovative thinking and industriousness can affect where a student is ranked.

Also, it's important to remember that admission to graduate school is a single milestone in your life. Extra-curricular activities may not give you a relevant bullet on your CV. But if they enable you to relax more during your down time, sleep better, or focus more when you are studying, then obviously those will help you to bolster those measurable quantities that do count towards admission.

Along those lines too, extra-curricular activities are often what help students get jobs when they eventually leave academia. Taking part in clubs, volunteering, mentoring... these all can build skills that are extremely important to employers. And they give you tangible experience to draw on during job interviews.

Thank you. What about internships? Like the kind of ones I mentioned? Do grad schools take that into account?
 
For some high octane fellowships available for new grad students that might tip the scale for you in picking one grad school over the other, extra-curriculars that indicate leadership character (I'm sure you can think of a few) and such will help you a lot (Fulbright is one example). I would presume in very competitive programs it might help you stand out from a group of potential admits that have similar grades, test scores, letters, etc.

An internship that isn't spent doing research or something that would be otherwise useful for grad school is probably not going to help. The type you mentioned would if that's the field you want to go into, but they are extremely competitive programs so do not apply to just two.
 

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