Do I Need a License for Horizontal Thrust Rocket Tests?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the licensing requirements for conducting horizontal thrust tests of rocket engines, particularly in relation to local laws and regulations. Participants explore the implications of testing rocket engines in a laboratory setting versus launching rockets vertically.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that licensing is required for rockets of certain power ranges, questioning whether this applies to horizontal thrust tests specifically.
  • There is a suggestion that local laws and regulations are crucial in determining the need for a license, with some participants indicating that knowledge of these laws is necessary.
  • A participant recalls that model rockets under one pound and using up to an F motor are not permitted for horizontal launches according to NAR guidelines.
  • It is noted that rockets exceeding one pound or with greater than F power are classified as amateur rockets, requiring prior permission from aviation authorities for launches.
  • One participant clarifies that their testing involves a rocket engine in a laboratory for thrust measurements, not a horizontal launch in the traditional sense.
  • There is a mention of the FAA as the regulatory authority in the US for matters related to model rocketry and commercial space flight, with references to relevant regulatory documents provided.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of licenses for horizontal thrust tests, with some emphasizing the importance of local regulations while others focus on the technical classifications of rockets. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific licensing requirements.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the need to navigate complex regulatory materials and local laws, indicating that the discussion is influenced by varying interpretations of these regulations.

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If your rocket is of a certain power range you need a certain license. My question is of you need these license's if you are only doing horizontal thrusts tests and never actually launching it vertically into the air?
 
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Jason White said:
If your rocket is of a certain power range you need a certain license. My question is of you need these license's if you are only doing horizontal thrusts tests and never actually launching it vertically into the air?
I would think this question can only be answered by someone with a knowledge of your local laws and regulations.
 
SteamKing said:
I would think this question can only be answered by someone with a knowledge of your local laws and regulations.
Well i was hoping someone would be in NAR, but the president of NAR already answered my question.
 
Jason White said:
If your rocket is of a certain power range you need a certain license. My question is of you need these license's if you are only doing horizontal thrusts tests and never actually launching it vertically into the air?
Years ago I was into model rocketry, and a NAR member. IRRC, a model rocket is under one pound and uses only up to an F motor. Horizontal launch is not permitted in NAR.

Rockets over one pound or with greater than F power are considered amateur rockets and must have launches permitted in advance by aviation authorities, and launched only in designated areas, IRRC.

Local laws and regulations have progressively restricted model rocketry from schoolyards and playgrounds in my city, but it is still allowed in outlying areas.
 
Dotini said:
Years ago I was into model rocketry, and a NAR member. IRRC, a model rocket is under one pound and uses only up to an F motor. Horizontal launch is not permitted in NAR.

Rockets over one pound or with greater than F power are considered amateur rockets and must have launches permitted in advance by aviation authorities, and launched only in designated areas, IRRC.

Local laws and regulations have progressively restricted model rocketry from schoolyards and playgrounds in my city, but it is still allowed in outlying areas.
Interesting. This wouldn't be a rocket just a rocket engine tested in a laboratory. for thrust measurements. No horizontal launch is being done as long as you mean launch as letting it move. I'm not with the NAR i just called them because i figured they would know.

Is it difficult to get launches permitted by aviation authorities. I'm assuming you're referring to the FAA?
 
Jason White said:
Interesting. This wouldn't be a rocket just a rocket engine tested in a laboratory. for thrust measurements. No horizontal launch is being done as long as you mean launch as letting it move. I'm not with the NAR i just called them because i figured they would know.

Is it difficult to get launches permitted by aviation authorities. I'm assuming you're referring to the FAA?

In the US, the FAA is the regulating authority for such matters. The regulatory areas of interest for model rocketry, commercial space flight, etc. are discussed here:

https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/AIR/air3101.html

The Code of Federal Regulations is published annually and can be found here:

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/browse/collectionCfr.action?collectionCode=CFR

Only you know all the details of what you plan to do with this rocket motor, so good luck wading thru this material.
 
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SteamKing said:
In the US, the FAA is the regulating authority for such matters. The regulatory areas of interest for model rocketry, commercial space flight, etc. are discussed here:

https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/AIR/air3101.html

The Code of Federal Regulations is published annually and can be found here:

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/browse/collectionCfr.action?collectionCode=CFR

Only you know all the details of what you plan to do with this rocket motor, so good luck wading thru this material.
Thanks for the help!
 
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