Do Lorentz boosts affect spin orientation?

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The discussion centers on whether a Lorentz boost affects the spin orientation of an electron, particularly in the context of quantum mechanics and the transformation properties of spinors and vectors. Participants explore the implications of applying boosts in various directions relative to the electron's spin state.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if a Lorentz boost changes the direction of an electron's spin orientation, particularly when boosted along different axes.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of the Pauli-Lubansky vector, suggesting that applying multiple boosts can induce a net rotation of the spin vector.
  • A clarification is sought regarding the transformation of the electron's spin direction versus the spinor itself, highlighting the distinction between 4-vectors and spinors.
  • It is noted that in the rest frame of the particle, spin projection can be defined along any axis, but the spin projection operators do not commute with Lorentz boosts, indicating that a spin-up state may not remain spin-up after a boost.
  • There is a suggestion to differentiate between the transformation of spinors and the concept of helicity in the context of Lorentz boosts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how Lorentz boosts affect spin orientation, with no consensus reached on the implications of these transformations for the electron's spin state.

Contextual Notes

The discussion involves complex transformations and assumptions about the relationship between spinors and vectors, as well as the conditions under which these transformations are applied. Specific mathematical steps and definitions are not fully resolved.

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Does a Lorentz boost change the "direction" of an electron's spin orientation?

For example, if an electron is in a state "spin-up" along x, and this electron is subjected to a large boost along another direction, say z, will the electron's spin remain "spin-up" along x?

What if the electron is instead boosted along the direction of its spin?

I know that Dirac 4-spinors transform under Lorentz boosts and rotations, for example as shown in Peskin/schroeder, however it is not clear to me how the transformation affects (if at all) the orientation of the electron's spin.

Please refer to my recent post a few hours ago: "Spin Direction and 4-spinor Components" for a more detailed and specific version of this question, including some calculations I did on boosting the spinors.

Thank you very much for any help on this subject!
 
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The vector describing electron's spin is the Pauli Lyubarskii vector which is obtained by boosting the electron to it's rest frame. Now if an electron is already moving at constant speed v1 and you apply a second boost v2 , then, starting from the1st PL vector you have to apply 3 boosts to get the 2nd PL vector. Namely if the boost from 0 to v1 and than the boost v2 are not parallel, they will induce a net rotation. Hence the second PL vector will be rotated with respect to the first.
 
Thank you for replying DrDu. The Pauli-Lubansky vector is a 4-vector, which Lorentz transforms accordingly. The electron's 4-spinor transforms differently, since it is a spinor and not a vector. So what you are saying is that I should transform the DIRECTION of the electron's spin (which is described by a 4-vector) and NOT the spinor itself? Just wanted to clarify this. Thanks again.
 
Zoot, In the rest frame of the particle, one can define its spin projection along any space axis. More generally if the particle has a 4-momentum pμ, one can use a 4-dimensional vector sμ for a spin polarization axis, provided that pμ and sμ are orthogonal.

Given sμ, one defines spin projection operators Σ±(s) = ½(1 ±γ5γμsμ), with eigenvalues ±1 for the two spin states. Σ does not commute with Lorentz boosts, so in general a spin-up state will not remain spin up.
 
It depends what you are behind. You were asking about the transformation of spin, not spinors, didn't you?
 
using a boost,one can write for the transformation of spinor.but it is better not to confuse transformation of spinor under lorentz boost with something like helicity.
 

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