Do pipe fittings work with male compression fittings?

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The discussion revolves around the compatibility of ordinary pipe fittings, specifically elbows, with male compression fittings in plumbing applications. Participants explore various solutions for connecting a braided water supply line to a valve while addressing potential sealing issues and fitting availability.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether an ordinary elbow fitting can properly seal when attached to a male compression fitting, particularly in the context of replacing a copper tube with a braided line.
  • Another participant suggests alternative solutions, including replacing the valve with a fixture shut-off that has both male pipe thread and compression fitting options, while expressing doubt about the fitting sizes based on a provided image.
  • A third participant notes the presence of a reducer on the existing valve and recommends replacing it with an elbow to facilitate the connection to the braided line.
  • One participant mentions a specific type of elbow called a "Street Elbow" designed for tight spaces and advises using a pipe sealant instead of Teflon tape due to sealing issues with modern brass fittings.
  • There is curiosity expressed about the existence of female fittings that can fit over male compression fittings without relying on a compression sleeve, with one participant indicating that some fittings may have a rubber seal for this purpose.
  • A later reply emphasizes the variety of fittings available at hardware stores, suggesting that options may exist that have not been considered yet.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the use of an elbow fitting as a viable solution, but there is no consensus on the availability or design of female fittings that can fit over male compression fittings without compression sleeves. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of such fittings.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the compatibility of sizes and threading between compression fittings and ordinary pipe fittings, as well as the sealing effectiveness of different types of fittings.

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Does an ordinary pipe fitting, such as an elbow work when screwed onto a male compression fitting"? - or won't the connection seal properly?

The situation shown in the photo: I need to replace a 1/4 inch copper tube water supply line (to the ice maker on a refrigerator) with a 1/4 inch braided line. But the braided line has a burst protector on the end so it can't make the sharp 90 degree turn needed go from the valve up the wall.

The simplest solution would be an elbow, one end with a female connection to fit over the male compression connection at the valve, and the other end with a male compression connection to attach the braided line.

I can't find such a fitting at local hardware stores. Online, I find elbows with with the male compression fitting on one end and a female connection on the other, but I'm not sure the female end is designed to fit over a male compression fitting.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0070TX3EO/?tag=pfamazon01-20

If such an elbow would work then what size female end should I order? The outer diameter of a male "1/4 inch" compression fitting is about 3/8 of an inch.
 

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Obviously there are a number of ways to do it. Simplest would be an elbow as you described but I haven't seen one in hardware stores either and I have done a lot of plumbing. Next would be to replace the valve with a fixture shut-off with male pipe thread one side and the appropriate compression fitting on the other side. They are readily available in right angle configurations. Or, if you don't want to take a chance on having a leak when you remove the existing valve, you could just do the same while leaving the existing valve in place. The brass valve you have there looks like a good quality valve. I doubt it will give trouble for many tears.
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If you are sure the sizes are right, I am sure the fitting you have in the link would work. Compression is a very common way to go with fixtures and fixture shut-offs. I will say that the sizes don't quite seem right to me based on the pic.
 
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That existing ball valve has a reducer (with pipe threads) attached to it to accept the smaller compression fitting. Replace the reducer with an elbow, followed by whatever is needed to mate with the new braided line.

Cheers,
Tom
 
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As @Tom.G said, an elbow.
There's a special type made for tight spaces, "Street Elbow".

Streetelbow.jpg


I recommend use pipe sealant that comes in a tube instead of the Teflon tape we all grew to love..
Since they took the lead out of brass it doesn't seal well anymore with Teflon tape and will likely drip , ruining your cabinet.
https://www.permatex.com/products/thread-compounds/thread-sealants/permatex-thread-sealant-with-ptfe/

BTW - nice job there with that ball valve...

old jim
 

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I'll heed the unanimous decision and put a street elbow into the non-compression pipes.

However, just out of curiosity, are there any female fittings designed to fit over male compression fittings? - a female connection that doesn't depend on a compression sleeve? Does the male part of a compression fitting have a size or threading different than ordinary pipes?
 
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Stephen Tashi said:
I'll heed the unanimous decision and put a street elbow into the non-compression pipes.

However, just out of curiosity, are there any female fittings designed to fit over male compression fittings? - a female connection that doesn't depend on a compression sleeve? Does the male part of a compression fitting have a size or threading different than ordinary pipes?
Yes. What is on the end of that braided hose in the pic in your first post fits a male compression without actually compressing any pipe with a compression sleeve. There is a rubber seal inside end of the braided hose that seals up against the male compression fitting in the fixture shut-off valve that would typically be used. Beyond this I know of none but that is not to say they don't exist.
 
Look at the myriad fittings in a good hardware store - it's amazing.
 
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