Do you deserve your high school diploma?

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The discussion revolves around a quiz titled "Do you deserve your high school diploma?" Participants share their scores, reflect on the questions, and express their thoughts on the content and relevance of the quiz, including specific questions related to history and religion.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants report high scores (85-100%) and express surprise at their performance, suggesting they may be autodidacts.
  • Others mention lower scores (63-79%) and reflect on their knowledge or lack thereof regarding specific quiz questions.
  • Several participants question the relevance of certain quiz questions, particularly those related to religion and historical figures like Columbus.
  • There is a discussion about the interpretation of the "Immaculate Conception" question, with differing views on its clarity and relevance.
  • Some participants debate the accuracy of historical claims regarding Columbus's landfall, with conflicting opinions on whether he landed in North America.
  • A few participants express confusion over the quiz's content, indicating that some questions do not seem appropriate for a high school level.
  • There are comments about the perceived educational value of the quiz and its questions, with some participants suggesting that they learned about these topics outside of high school.

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Participants generally express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the quiz content and the appropriateness of certain questions. There is no consensus on the validity of the quiz or the historical claims made within it.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in their high school education regarding specific subjects, such as religion and history, and express uncertainty about the definitions of geographical regions relevant to the quiz questions.

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Individuals interested in educational assessments, high school curricula, or discussions about historical and religious knowledge may find this thread engaging.

  • #31
BobG said:
No, they're referring to Mary being conceived, not Mary's conception of Jesus.
This I did not know. I always thought they were talking about the virgin birth, something different.
 
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  • #32
turbo-1 said:
I got the Columbus one by reasoning that he never touched the North American soil, only an island in the Caribbean.
Islands in the Caribbean ARE North American soil. C'mon mon!
 
  • #33
DaveC426913 said:
I think I did so badly because I got the first two questions wrong. :sadface:

What is your age and what gender are you?

Curious ones to make a mistake on :-pYou paid attention during 89% of high school!

85-100% You must be an autodidact, because American high schools don't get scores that high! Good show, old chap!
 
  • #34
Yea, that's weird. The caribbean is definitely north america in my book.

I got an 84%, it says I deserve a high school diploma - but I never got one!
 
  • #35
89%

We read Hamlet in AP English, but none of the others.

I also slept through most of high school...
 
  • #36
No, they're referring to Mary being conceived, not Mary's conception of Jesus. They had extended the idea of Jesus's perfection to the point where he couldn't even be conceived by someone who had been conceived the normal way.
So Mary had a virgin mother? I still think I'm not understanding this.
 
  • #37
leroyjenkens said:
So Mary had a virgin mother? I still think I'm not understanding this.
No. The Roman Catholic dogma holds that Mary was born without the taint of "original sin", thus making her a suitably pure vessel for the birth of god's earthly son. The notion of original sin was a hold-over from the idea that humans are fallible and inherently sinful - even new-born infants. Adam and Eve's fall from grace seems to be the root of that idea.
 
  • #38
turbo-1 said:
No. The Roman Catholic dogma holds that Mary was born without the taint of "original sin", thus making her a suitably pure vessel for the birth of god's earthly son. The notion of original sin was a hold-over from the idea that humans are fallible and inherently sinful - even new-born infants. Adam and Eve's fall from grace seems to be the root of that idea.

Ok, so the "immaculate conception" wasn't the birth of Jesus, rather, it was the birth of Mary being born free from sin.
All these years I thought it was the birth of Jesus. No wonder I couldn't figure out why it was called immaculate conception.
 
  • #39
So only Mary deserves a high school diploma and the rest of us deserve to burn in hell? I think I'm getting this.

I got 84%, which means nothing but the second somebody posts a lower score, you can bet I'll feel superior and validated.
 
  • #40
leroyjenkens said:
Ok, so the "immaculate conception" wasn't the birth of Jesus, rather, it was the birth of Mary being born free from sin.
All these years I thought it was the birth of Jesus. No wonder I couldn't figure out why it was called immaculate conception.

i believe the idea is that sin and perfection cannot coexist. so mary had to be perfect and sinless to be the vessel for jesus. the obvious logical fault, tho, is that this would require that mary's mother be perfect, and so on and so on, which at some point runs into the trouble of eve.

guess the author of this test was raised by monks or nuns.

art was also something that we didn't get in high school unless you were either in special ed or one of those few dedicated artists that ended up there as an elective instead of sciences.
 
  • #41
leroyjenkens said:
Ok, so the "immaculate conception" wasn't the birth of Jesus, rather, it was the birth of Mary being born free from sin.
All these years I thought it was the birth of Jesus. No wonder I couldn't figure out why it was called immaculate conception.
The mystery of Jesus' birth was the notion of "virgin birth". At the time that the Bible was being translated into Latin, Rome was in the throes of a virgin mania. In fact (if you believe the Jesuits' Jerusalem Bible, and I lend them a lot of credence) the correct word was "maiden" from the Aramaic texts, and not "virgin".
 

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