Do you know how to find the equation of lines?

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The discussion revolves around finding the equations of lines based on given points and their gradients. The original poster presents a problem involving three points: (0, 0), ( [x/2], [x√3]/2 ), and (x, 0), and attempts to derive equations from the gradients calculated between these points.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of gradients between pairs of points and the resulting equations. There is a focus on identifying errors in the application of slopes and the interpretation of variables.

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Some participants have identified potential errors in the original calculations, particularly regarding the sign of the slope in one of the equations. There is an ongoing exploration of how the variable "x" is defined and used in different contexts within the problem.

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Participants note the confusion arising from the redefinition of "x" as both a constant in the coordinates and a variable in the equation format. This distinction is under examination as they seek clarity in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


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The Attempt at a Solution



Points: (0, 0); ( [x/2], [x√3]/2 ); (x, 0)

For points (0, 0) and ( [x/2], [x√3]/2 )

Gradient = m = {[x√3]/2 - 0}/ {[x/2] - 0} = √3


m = (y-0)/(x-0)
√3 = y/x
y = x√3 <--- eqn. 1
For points ( [x/2], [x√3]/2 ) and (x, 0)

Gradient = m = {0 - (x√3)/2}/ {x-(x/2)} = -√3


m = [y - {(x√3)/2)] / [ x- (x/2) ]
-√3 = [y - {(x√3)/2)] / [ x- (x/2) ]
y = [(-x√3)/2] + [(x√3)/2]
y = 0 <--- eqn. 2​
For points (0, 0) and (x, 0)

Gradient = m = (0 - 0)/ (x-0) = 0


m = (y - 0) / (x-0)
0 = 0​

If you went through all of the above you'll notice that I got two y=0 equations...Where did I mess up?
 
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crouch88 said:

Homework Statement


http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/5/12317385174-orig.jpg"

The Attempt at a Solution



Points: (0, 0); ( [x/2], [x√3]/2 ); (x, 0)

For points (0, 0) and ( [x/2], [x√3]/2 )

Gradient = m = {[x√3]/2 - 0}/ {[x/2] - 0} = √3


m = (y-0)/(x-0)
√3 = y/x
y = x√3 <--- eqn. 1


For points ( [x/2], [x√3]/2 ) and (x, 0)

Gradient = m = {0 - (x√3)/2}/ {x-(x/2)} = -√3


m = [y - {(x√3)/2)] / [ x- (x/2) ]
√3 = [y - {(x√3)/2)] / [ x- (x/2) ]
y = [(-x√3)/2] + [(x√3)/2]
y = 0 <--- eqn. 2


For points (0, 0) and (x, 0)

Gradient = m = (0 - 0)/ (x-0) = 0


m = (y - 0) / (x-0)
0 = 0​

If you went through all of the above you'll notice that I got two y=0 equations...Where did I mess up?
In the second pair of points. You found the slope to be -sqrt(3), but substituted +sqrt(3) when you found the equation.
 
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Plugged in the wrong slope in the second equation. It should be negative.
 
The Chaz said:
Plugged in the wrong slope in the second equation. It should be negative.

Mark, you genius!
 
Sorry guys! That was a typo! I basically just copied the whole response off my copy. I did take -√3 as gradient for the second pair of equations.
 
Oh, now I see. The problem is the redefinition of "x". As used in the coordinates, it is a constant. When used in "y=mx+b", it is a variable.

Let's use the points (0,0) (a,0) and... whatever that third one was, but with "a" instead of "x". You'll get the right answer.
 
Okay, now the first gradient becomes (-a√3) / (2x-a)... thanks Chaz! I hope this works.
 
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The Chaz said:
Mark, you genius!
Well, we both spotted it at the same time.
 

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