Doctors and patients relationship

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The discussion centers on the complex relationship between doctors and patients in the context of mental health treatment. Participants express concerns that some medical professionals prioritize medication over therapy, driven by financial incentives from insurance companies and the healthcare system. The conversation highlights the importance of a dual approach to treatment, combining medication for physiological imbalances with therapy to address underlying social issues. Additionally, the role of hospitals in diagnosing mental illnesses and the implications of labeling patients are critically examined.

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when i think of Medications for brain related "diseses" I feel that their stimulating a part of the brain synthetically.
Which I feel is the choice of the patient to use or not. I think that for some, the diseses are there from problems
In their life that they have not gotten over. They have somehow shut that past out of their memories since it
hurt so much or the people they needed weren't there any more. I feel a lot of doctors these days would like to
use there patients for money specifically hospitals and clincs for mental heath care. They would rather see them all druged up than see them really deal with what's troubling them. It's a sick thought but it is true in some cases. It's nobody real fault it's just how the system works at at times. People can change by asking the right questions, by seeing it through the hard way. Not given into it
but threading it into your life like magic.
 
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Actually, doctors make much more money from therapy than drugs. If you want to blame somebody, blame insurance companies. They are the ones who benefit from choosing medications over therapy.

Also, many people really do just have a physiological problem that affects their mind. Is it really suprising? You can have physical problems that give you the wrong insulin levels, or the wrong blood clotting levels, why not the wrong seratonin levels?

Njorl
 
You also have to be careful that people are not attributing their problems in life to things that are not actually causing it. if a person does have an imbalance in their brian that they are not aware of that is causeing depression, they will attribute that depression to their social situation, not the imbalance (as they are not aware of it and go on experiential feeling) Experience is fallable and not always a good tool for fixing a mind. So, fix the imbalance, and then the person will suddenly feel better. they will still have to deal with the social problem they attributed their depression to, because by now they have made a social situation - depression link, and thinking of it will trigger depressed feelings via habit. so these we should deal with. but often therapy on its own will not be sufficient for a real recovery... a duel method approach can be most favourable... but of course, it should awlawys be the patients choice unless they are in danger of hurting themselves/ others.
 
admitedly, insurance companies do get wealthy off the misfortunes of other people, but drugs can help people live as physically healthy people even if they are born with a defect or suffers from trauma or parylysis. drugs give hope to people, and hope is what is in short supply in this world right now.
 
doctors and patients relationship

since there's been talk in the social science forum of what mental illness is. I would like to talk about the relationship of the patient staff relationship in mental hospitals. Since the hospitals and clinics are who give the disorders to the people from the begining. Is it always right to slap an illness on a person right away? Remember this could be an illness that effects the persons life dramatically. Do Hospitals let patients out without a illness associated to them?
 


Originally posted by mikelus
since there's been talk in the social science forum of what mental illness is. I would like to talk about the relationship of the patient staff relationship in mental hospitals. Since the hospitals and clinics are who give the disorders to the people from the begining. Is it always right to slap an illness on a person right away? Remember this could be an illness that effects the persons life dramatically. Do Hospitals let patients out without a illness associated to them?

Hospitals in general are to stabilise a patient and treat life threatening acute illnesses, not necessarily to always arrive at the exact diagnosis...that can be done on an outpatient basis. As it applies to psychiatric hospitals,this is also true. If someone is hallucinating and wants to harm others or oneself, wether it is due to a drug induced hallucinogenic effect, a schizophrenic breakdown, bipolar disorder, psychosis induced by something as simple as sleep deprivation or just a "bad day", the job of the hospital is to try to stabilise that person and ensure his or her safety. Then, upon discharge, with close followup with a psycologist, social worker or psychiatrist, things can be fine tuned.
 
Originally posted by Njorl
Actually, doctors make much more money from therapy than drugs. If you want to blame somebody, blame insurance companies.

Hi Njorl, actually if you are looking to blame somebody then you are looking at the wrong association. You should just blame commercialism for the effect it is having on human emotions and direction. It is commercialism that drives value in your world.
 

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