Does {1/n} n=1 to infinity converge? Why or why not? in a topological space

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of the sequence {1/n} as n approaches infinity within the context of a topological space defined by the usual metric on R. Participants explore whether this sequence converges to a specific limit and examine the convergence of the sequence {n} as well.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Some participants attempt to establish the convergence of {1/n} to 1 initially, while others suggest it converges to 0. Questions are raised about the definitions of convergence in a topological space and the implications of open neighborhoods.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, correcting initial misconceptions about the convergence of the sequence {1/n}. There is an acknowledgment of the need for a more rigorous proof regarding the convergence to 0, and some participants are working on refining their arguments.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the limits of the sequences discussed, particularly the initial incorrect assertion that {1/n} converges to 1. Participants are also considering the implications of the topology defined on R and how it affects convergence.

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hi,
can someone please help me with this problem.

Let T be the collection of all U subset R such that U is open using the usual
metric on R.Then (R; T ) is a topological space. The topology T could also be described as
all subsets U of R such that using the usual metric on R, R \ U is closed and
bounded.

Does {1/n} n=1 to infinity converge? Why or why not?

I think it does converge...it converges to 1 for example...am I right?

Does {n} n=1 to infinity converge? Why or why not?

I don't think that this sequence converges in a topological space?

thanks
 
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math25 said:
Does {1/n} n=1 to infinity converge? Why or why not?

I think it does converge...it converges to 1 for example...am I right?

Does there exist an [itex]N \in \mathbb{N}[/itex] such that the open neighborhood [itex](\frac{1}{2},\frac{3}{2})[/itex] of [itex]1[/itex] contains [itex]\frac{1}{n}[/itex] for all [itex]N<n[/itex]?

Does {n} n=1 to infinity converge? Why or why not?

I don't think that this sequence converges in a topological space?

You should say "I don't think that this sequence converges in the usual topology on [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex]" to be more accurate. But you got this one right. Now can you prove it?
 
thank you so much...

It seems like I wrote everything wrong, for the second sequence that's what I meant to say, and I've already proved it.

for the first sequence, it converges to 0 in usual topology and this is what I have so far...

For every open U s.t. 0 is in U, there exist N such that for all n > N, 1/n is in U

Assume 0 is in U where U is open in usual topology then there is a s> 0 s.t. (1-s, 1+s) is subset of U
So,

1-s < 1/n
n < 1/( 1-s)
 
math25 said:
For every open U s.t. 0 is in U, there exist N such that for all n > N, 1/n is in U

Assume 0 is in U where U is open in usual topology then there is a s> 0 s.t. (1-s, 1+s) is subset of U
So,

1-s < 1/n
n < 1/( 1-s)

Given that you wrote the first part wrong, I am going to ask you to rewrite this argument carefully before I give you more help.
 
math25 said:
hi,
can someone please help me with this problem.

Let T be the collection of all U subset R such that U is open using the usual
metric on R.Then (R; T ) is a topological space. The topology T could also be described as
all subsets U of R such that using the usual metric on R, R \ U is closed and
bounded.

Does {1/n} n=1 to infinity converge? Why or why not?

I think it does converge...it converges to 1 for example...am I right?
Did you think to write out at least part of sequence? Taking n= 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, gives
1, 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/5. You think that is getting closer to 1?

Does {n} n=1 to infinity converge? Why or why not?

I don't think that this sequence converges in a topological space?

thanks
 
It was mistake, which I corrected later...it converges to 0 not 1.
 
math25 said:
It was mistake, which I corrected later...it converges to 0 not 1.

Right. But you still have not provided a correct proof that the sequence converges to 0.
 
agree, I"ll be working on it today...
 

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